Every Day with Jesus Daily Bible - Is This the Final Version in Logos?

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2021 11:17 AM

I know there are multiple posts here about the status of our WordSearch resources, and I've not only scanned the contents, I've engaged at times in the last few weeks. But those posts are now so long, I'm finding it difficult to refer to them other than a quick link to my resources migration page. Thus this stand-alone inquiry on a specific WS resource:

The Every Day with Jesus Daily Bible by Selwyn Hughes is currently an eBook. Is it in your queue to be converted to a Calendar Devotional?

General questions:

1. Is there a way to get an updated list of eBooks that are "in the queue" to be converted to Logos Resources? (Someone asked this back in early December in another forum thread, but there was no reply.)

2. If this is the final version of Every Day with Jesus, then is this the place and the way to note what seems to be formatting errors? Eg. There are a LOT of Bible books within bible references that have an extra space, inactivating them as active bible reference links.

I don't have a lot of titles that I have issues with; probably less than 20...which is pretty good since I had over 430 titles in WS. But of those, a few were my favorites. And I know all of this has been an enormous undertaking, so I've just been waiting.

3. I read somewhere that you had hoped to have the migration completed by end of 2020, but that was a bit optimistic. I understand and get that. Do you have a new "hopefully we will be done" date?

Thanks!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 11:47 AM

Greetings Sharon

Of course, I don't have a copy of 'Every Day with Jesus'. However, if it is due to be converted to 'Calendar Devotional' then the content is due to be upgraded.

I have attached the information panel from one of my 'Calendar Devotionals'. When 'Every Day with Jesus' has been through the process you should see something like this in the resource information panel.

tootle pip

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 2:37 PM

Mike Binks:
if it is due to be converted

Thanks, Mike, but that's my primary question: IS it due to be converted? I don't know and would surely love to find out. As it is at the moment, it's almost impossible to use as a resource, and not just because it's not indexed by Day of the Year. I have other devotionals that are NOT indexed by day/year and can navigate them just fine. Unfortunately, Every Day with Jesus, in its present formatting in Logosis almost unusable.

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skypeace | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 10:20 PM

The Every Day with Jesus Bible Devotional was something that I used and shared with ministry partners.  Indeed in its present Logos format it is unusable.  It is a great resource and devotional, but will need more attention from Logos if it is to continue to be used, otherwise it is just a waste of space.  

I am grateful for what Logos has done so far with many resources, yet it is also apparent that some resources receive such cursory attention as to be almost insulting. 

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jan 13 2021 11:54 PM

skypeace:
I am grateful for what Logos has done so far with many resources, yet it is also apparent that some resources receive such cursory attention as to be almost insulting.

Sorry for the issues.

FL decided on a 2-part process to get WS titles into Logos as quickly as possible, rather than making customers wait for the finished product:

  1. Automated conversion to FL ebook format. No human attention at this stage. Most resources will be usable, but some may not be formatted properly, as apparently is the case with this particular resource.
  2. A manual conversion to a Logos edition. This will obviously take longer to properly format and tag a resource by hand.

Since there are thousands of resources to get through, getting everything done will take some time.

I’m confident this resource will receive the same care and attention when its turn comes up to be manually converted, if that’s ok with everyone.

Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

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PetahChristian | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 12:10 AM

Sharon Hillam:
IS it due to be converted?

Yes, it should be converted from an ebook edition to a Logos edition.

No one outside of FL knows when that will happen. I know they prioritized some resources to be finished sooner rather than later, but I don’t know the specific criteria they used.

Will its Logos type be a Calendar devotional? I’d hope so, but we don’t know that either.

It’s tough not knowing the answers but I trust there won’t be any issues with the final product. I’m sorry that it’s almost unusable as an ebook, in the meantime.

Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 6:34 AM

PetahChristian:

FL decided on a 2-part process to get WS titles into Logos as quickly as possible, rather than making customers wait for the finished product:

  1. Automated conversion to FL ebook format. No human attention at this stage. Most resources will be usable, but some may not be formatted properly, as apparently is the case with this particular resource.
  2. A manual conversion to a Logos edition. This will obviously take longer to properly format and tag a resource by hand.

Since there are thousands of resources to get through, getting everything done will take some time.

Thanks, PetahC, for your helpful info. I had read this in an earlier post here on the forum, but that post has gotten so lengthy—214 replies, at last count—I find it difficult to wade through.

My inquiry was in no way a complaint. I am a former computer programmer who was involved in similar migration projects, and I'm more than aware that they almost ALWAYS take about twice as long as originally planned. The 2-step process Logos is taking is exactly how we would have done it.

PetahChristian:
I’m confident this resource will receive the same care and attention when its turn comes up to be manually converted,

Your confidence is somewhat reassuring. Thanks. At the same time, however, I was hoping that when I posted this, someone at FL would chime in to confirm it. I don't mind waiting as long as it IS, in fact, on the list to receive further attention. It's not knowing if it's "on the list" that I'm addressing with this post.

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 6:45 AM

PetahChristian:
No one outside of FL knows when that will happen.

So...FL if you're reading this, is there a list of resources yet-to-be-formatted that could be released to us former-WS users? A timeline would be great, but isn't nearly as important as simply knowing WHICH resources are in the queue.

And if that's already available somewhere else, my apologies.

I'm thrilled to be using Logos and grateful for such an amazing app. Once again, I am in no way complaining that not all of my WS resources are yet available in Logos. I know a few won't come over for various GOOD reasons. I'm fine with that and completely understand.

Keep up the great work, FL! Thank you!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 7:02 AM

Sharon Hillam:
At the same time, however, I was hoping that when I posted this, someone at FL would chime in to confirm it. I don't mind waiting as long as it IS, in fact, on the list to receive further attention. It's not knowing if it's "on the list" that I'm addressing with this post.

Hi Sharon

This particular forum has had a more frequent Faithlife staff presence than most of the others. Bradley has done a sterling job quieting the fears of people shocked by the demise of Wordsearch. However, I have noticed both the tailing off of the number of posts here and the presence of Staff. In general, the forums are where users help users.

I have no influence on the matter but I would imagine that when the questions dry up this forum will be closed and enquiries expected in the Logos 8 or Logos 9 forums as appropriate.

However, in the past Staff have said that as far as is possible all Wordsearch resources will be upgraded to 'reader' or research editions. A calendar devotional will fall into that category.

tootle pip

Mike

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Kyle G. Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 10:37 AM

This isn't the final version and it's scheduled to be updated. I don't have a date yet.

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 12:24 PM

Mike Binks:

This particular forum has had a more frequent Faithlife staff presence than most of the others. Bradley has done a sterling job quieting the fears of people shocked by the demise of Wordsearch. However, I have noticed both the tailing off of the number of posts here and the presence of Staff. In general, the forums are where users help users.

I have no influence on the matter but I would imagine that when the questions dry up this forum will be closed and enquiries expected in the Logos 8 or Logos 9 forums as appropriate.

However, in the past Staff have said that as far as is possible all Wordsearch resources will be upgraded to 'reader' or research editions. A calendar devotional will fall into that category.

Thanks for this, Mike. ALL very good info. And I continue to grin every time I see your tag line. Love it!

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Sharon Hillam | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jan 14 2021 12:33 PM

Kyle G. Anderson:
This isn't the final version and it's scheduled to be updated.

Great news, Kyle! Thanks! And no date is no problem! Patience is a "virch-me."

Don't know what "virch-me" is? (And I'm spelling it to best represent the pronunciation.) Here's my quick version of the story:

A mom, trying to instill godly character into her little boy after he threw a bit of a temper tantrum for not getting his way said, "Buddy, repeat after me: Patience is a virtue." His response: "Patience is a virch-me." Big Smile

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