Bradley, Phil, Bob: only Faithlife lives in a binary world

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Mar 27 2021 3:41 PM

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):
Could you explain your need for having both installed in further detail? If we understand your use case, we may be able to provide a better solution than "install both".

Fabian:

Why is there noch a preferences where we can switch between Logos and Verbum, for the one which want to distinguish them. 

For me as I want both why is it not possible to have both in one?

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife):

However, "Set Verbum to Yes" is a deprecated command and may be removed in a future version. https://community.logos.com/forums/p/127241/827652.aspx#827652 

Customers who need Verbum should run Verbum.

It appears that only Faithlife believes in a binary world of Verbum (Catholic) / Logos (everyone else). And the feature set diverging increases Faithlife maintenance cost, frustrates those paying top price for an inferior product, and leaves 75% of the potential users without mixture of features they need.

For marketing purposes it makes sense to keep the two products separate but only for marketing. Much of the Christian world lives in a continuum between the extremes. Lutherans, Anglicans, and a few other Protestant groups use an expanded canon. Many churches have official church documents. Many church use a liturgical calendar and set worship books ...

I realize that you believe Verbum users to be smarter than Logos users - why else would you deny Verbum users access to Help Cards and Faithlife topic forums? While I am flattered, I think it is a major mistake. In the world of teaching and presentations, teachers often need to be able to switch to Logos or Verbum to illustrate a point because not all students are using the same version.

Please see Why do Verbumites pay the same as Logosians for a lesser product to understand that the FL user community wants to be able to exploit the continuum - choosing their canon, default prioritization, etc. Yes, one should still purchase Logos or Verbum with everything set for the binary division you have imposed ... but the serious user must be able to tailor it to their needs even if it is a "hidden" function they are likely to only use once.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 27 2021 4:42 PM

Though I am neither Catholic not liturgical, I have friends who are. For their sakes and my own interest I would prefer to have access to the entire Faithlife/Logos/Verbum product.

In fact, until reading this post from MJ, I did not know they were different products. Owning a number of Verbum items, it should be made more obvious to those of us using material from across the broad spectrum of Christianity.

Thank you for considering merging the two products.

Blessings,
Floyd

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SteveF | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 30 2021 5:58 AM

Until I ran out of room I used Logos 9 Beta and the Verbum [L9]  STABLE version.

Saved hassles on the few occasions that the Beta version was messed up.

BUT I just did not have room on my SSD for both of the libraries and indexing.

[Yes, I am aware I could have put a "stripped down" Verbum Library on] 

Thanks

Regards, SteveF

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