I'd like to be able to grab text (or right click on it) and rotate it (at least by 45 degree increments, or any angle that is allowed for lines by the snap-to-grid functionality; it looks like 22.5 degrees is the finest increment allowed), so that I put text along the diagonal lines, as in this diagram generated by an online Reed-Kellog Sentence Diagrammer:
This is the closest approximation I've been able to come up with using Logos, but it's not ideal:
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I agree. The first diagram is worth pursuing the capability of.
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I agree Rosie, this is basic for my usage.
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Rosie Perera:I'd like to be able to grab text (or right click on it) and rotate it
I agree.
Well, so far it seems unanimous! I haven't seen anyone who disagrees or thinks it would be too hard to implement.
So, c'mon, let's do it, Logos!
Rosie Perera:so that I put text along the diagonal lines, as in this diagram
The flavor of Reed-Kellogg I was taught in grade school didn't write on the diagonal. Now I've discovered it's advantage.
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MJ. Smith: Rosie Perera:so that I put text along the diagonal lines, as in this diagram The flavor of Reed-Kellogg I was taught in grade school didn't write on the diagonal. Now I've discovered it's advantage.
Yeah, the book Diagrammatical Analysis (that's available in Logos) explicitly says, "Always write on the horizontal base line," as it's first rule. Here's how it says to diagram a prepositional phrase:
But I think it's less useful for quickly seeing the structure that way. Diagonal lines (with diagonal words) make better use of space and make the modifier words more clearly associated with the word being modified. IMO
EDIT: Schreiner (in Interpreting the Pauline Epistles) also only uses horizonal words, but he does things even more differently than I'm used to:
Rotatable words please!
Todd Phillips: Diagonal lines (with diagonal words) make better use of space and make the modifier words more clearly associated with the word being modified
Sister Bernadette's Barking Dog: The Quirky History and Lost Art of Diagramming Sentences shows curved words on its cover:
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MJ. Smith:Sister Bernadette's Barking Dog: The Quirky History and Lost Art of Diagramming Sentences shows curved words on its cover
Ooo, after reading the second chapter in that book on Google books, I have to get it. It presents us with this wonderful diagram of a Woody Allen quote:
And shows that diagrams don't always make things clearer:
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It is great fun!
Here's a bizarre introduction to sentence diagramming based on the Reed-Kellogg method, illustrated with characters from Touhou animated video games:
http://aslancross.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/diagramming.ppt
It uses diagonals.
Here's the tough test example they give at the end of a sentence for you to try diagramming:
The defenders of Gensokyo, who are incredibly-skilled warriors, are fighting tirelessly to protect the realm from invaders who wish to take their beloved land, but the mysterious enemy who is coming might be too strong for them to defeat.
Rosie Perera:Here's the tough test example they give at the end of a sentence for you to try diagramming
Which is why I use tree diagrams for clarity, Reed-Kellogg for fun ...
Rosie Perera: I'd like to be able to grab text (or right click on it) and rotate it (at least by 45 degree increments, or any angle that is allowed for lines by the snap-to-grid functionality; it looks like 22.5 degrees is the finest increment allowed), so that I put text along the diagonal lines, as in this diagram generated by an online Reed-Kellog Sentence Diagrammer:
Yes please
up to 90 degrees for me both directions, if we can have text any angle from 0-90degrees will fix most situations
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DominicM:up to 90 degrees for me both directions, if we can have text any angle from 0-90degrees will fix most situations
What if there was a simple way to set the word or words to "follow attached line" or "rotate to follow attached line."
most of my diagramming use requires no or minimal lines, that would be a nice feature addition tho.. but to me the snapping to line is not as important as the rotation
Philip Spitzer:What if there was a simple way to set the word or words to "follow attached line" or "rotate to follow attached line."
Yeah, now that would be really nice! Even better than having to do it manually ourselves. (That's why I was never a software designer; just a programmer. I can see the superiority of such ideas like this, but I rarely come up with them on my own.)
DominicM: Rosie Perera: I'd like to be able to grab text (or right click on it) and rotate it (at least by 45 degree increments, or any angle that is allowed for lines by the snap-to-grid functionality; it looks like 22.5 degrees is the finest increment allowed), so that I put text along the diagonal lines, as in this diagram generated by an online Reed-Kellog Sentence Diagrammer: Yes please up to 90 degrees for me both directions, if we can have text any angle from 0-90degrees will fix most situations
Rosie Perera: Philip Spitzer:What if there was a simple way to set the word or words to "follow attached line" or "rotate to follow attached line." Yeah, now that would be really nice! Even better than having to do it manually ourselves. (That's why I was never a software designer; just a programmer. I can see the superiority of such ideas like this, but I rarely come up with them on my own.)
Honestly, I won't be using it that much though it's really fun to play around with :-) I would recommend the snap to line function as it would seem to speed things up a good bit, but I would also allow for a MS Office like rotation (little green dot above the selection). If it was one or the other I would go with snap to line. You could always create a line, give it a see through color and attach a word to it, assuming you can set the color or transparency.
this is a great suggestion!
I'm in agreement.
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