Can Logos 4 Be Run from a Portable (USB) Hard Drive?

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jul 27 2010 12:19 PM

Can Logos 4 Be Run from a Portable (USB) Hard Drive?

I would like to access my L4 at work from my 750GB portable hard drive without installing anything on the work computer.  Has anyone done anything like this with L4 (run the software completely from a portable drive)?  Thank you in advance for your time and thoughts...Michael

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 12:47 PM

I have never tried this, but I doubt it could be done completely without affecting the work computer. Logos relies on registry entries, so at the very minimum you'd have to install it to get those set up correctly. But you could probably map the installation folder to the portable hard disk using a symbolic link and have all the program files and resources reside on the portable drive. Here's some info on how to create symbolic links in Vista: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-symlinks-in-windows-vista/, and I expect that would work in Windows 7 as well. If you're running an older version of Windows I think you might be out of luck.

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 12:59 PM

Bummer!  Running Win XP Pro.  Thank you though.

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Icarus38376 | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 3:22 PM

Have you thought about running a remote desktop to your home computer?  I often use LogMeIn (http://www.logmein.com) and it works great.

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 3:34 PM

Rosie Perera:

I have never tried this, but I doubt it could be done completely without affecting the work computer. Logos relies on registry entries, so at the very minimum you'd have to install it to get those set up correctly. But you could probably map the installation folder to the portable hard disk using a symbolic link and have all the program files and resources reside on the portable drive. Here's some info on how to create symbolic links in Vista: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-symlinks-in-windows-vista/, and I expect that would work in Windows 7 as well. If you're running an older version of Windows I think you might be out of luck.

What I clearly need to do is set up a hotlink to Rosiepedia! IdeaWink

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 3:44 PM

CoramDeo:

Have you thought about running a remote desktop to your home computer?  I often use LogMeIn (http://www.logmein.com) and it works great.

 

That's a great idea and would work perfectly, I suspect, if I had a home computer and Internet connection.  I use a netbook.  I was hoping to use the computing power of, Internet connection on, and large screen attached to my work computer.  Maybe someone else will benefit from this suggestion...way to go.  Thanks.

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 3:57 PM

Michael G. Halpern:

Bummer!  Running Win XP Pro.  Thank you though.

You can accomplish the same thing by mounting an NTFS volume into an empty folder (did this with Oracle RDBMS back in the "old" days running Oracle on Windows 2000):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307889

 

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 4:04 PM

Michael G. Halpern:

Bummer!  Running Win XP Pro.  Thank you though.

If it runs on the NTFS file system you can use Junction

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 4:08 PM

Gentlemen:  If I can connect my port hd, what files from my install on my notebook will I need to copy to the port hd?  Once this (the files are copied) is done, where do I go to install the application?  Can I tell L4 engine to load to a port hd?

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 4:09 PM

I've tried this on Logos 4...I could never get it to work....but that was a long time ago..

 

http://www.everythingusb.com/ceedo.html

 

Run any app from a stick....

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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David Paul | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 27 2010 4:44 PM

Robert Pavich:

I've tried this on Logos 4...I could never get it to work....but that was a long time ago..

http://www.everythingusb.com/ceedo.html

Run any app from a stick....

Great link...thanks!

I am really liking the direction this thread is going...the idea of having my L3 and L4 on a stick (or two) that can be directly accessed or kept for back up is intriguing. Question: can it be done???

I would like someone in the know from Logos to respond with the "yes" or "no" to this question. If not now, is it a possible option?  I've got Portfolio plus a few additional items (okay...a few dozen) and my DLS (lol...I almost called it LDS) folder is between 8-9 Gb. Is this idea the easy option is sounds like?

RSVP...and merci.

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William Hatfield | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 8:38 AM

i ran logos 4 from my portable hard drive.  When you install it you just point the installation to that drive. But you have to install it on your computer to run on the portable drive.  So it does affect your computer.

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 10:00 AM

WilliamHatfield:
But you have to install it on your computer to run on the portable drive.

What do you mean by, "But you have to install it on your computer to run on the portable drive?"  If you install it on the computer, why use the portable drive?  Are you referring just to the resources and not the engine being installed on the portable drive?

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 11:31 AM

I tried installing it with MojoPac today....

I couldn't do it beause my home pc is win 7...and my work pcs are XP sp2....and it needs SP3 for Logos 4....

But it seems like it would work....

Robert Pavich

For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__

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Brent Hoefling | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 12:05 PM

Porrtableapps.com ? Anyone tried that?

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Nathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 4:01 PM

Michael G. Halpern:

Why not just create/convert it to a virtual machine and store it on the external.  May even run faster depending on your computer specs...

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Michael G. Halpern | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 4:17 PM

Nathan Barnes:
create/convert it to a virtual machine

Thank you for the info.  How might I go about doing this with a portable drive?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 5:02 PM

Don't forget that even if you got Logos working on a portable drive you'd still need to install the pre-requisites on the computer. There'll be no way around that.

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 5:14 PM

Michael G. Halpern:

I would like to access my L4 at work from my 750GB portable hard drive without installing anything on the work computer.

I don't believe that this is possible.

Even if you choose to install L4 on another drive, L4 still installs some stuff on the boot drive (usually under C:\Users\<LOGIN>\AppData\Local\Logos4).  L4 writes logs to the boot drive (usually under C:\Users\<LOGIN>\AppData\Local\Temp\Logos Log Files).  And L4 puts items in the registry.

 

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Nathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 28 2010 5:48 PM

Michael G. Halpern:
Thank you for the info.  How might I go about doing this with a portable drive?

Before you begin the process there are a few things to consider.

  1. Can you install the VMware Player on your work machine...Do you have local admin rights?
  2. Is there enough RAM in your work machine?  4GB would be excellent, 2GB so so...any less and I'm not sure it would be worth all the trouble.

A quick overview on the VM creation.

  1. Goto www.vmware.com and download the free standalone converter and the free VMWare Player. (You will have to create a free account before you can download it.)  This will allow you to convert your existing L4 machine into a VM.  After downloading run the converter and make sure you choose "VMWare workstation" as the type, and "VMWare Player 2.5x" as the product.  Choose your external drive as the destination.
  2. Make sure you copy the VMware Player download file to your external drive.  Run the download on your work computer and install the player.  After a reboot open the Player and click "Open Virtual Machine" and browse to your external drive and click on your converted L4 machine.   Thats it!

I think there may be better instructions here in the forums somewhere...I am slammed with work right now this is all I had time for at the moment.

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