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Thomas Wooded | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 4 2010 11:00 PM

Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.

I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?

Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?

What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?

Thanks!

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 4 2010 11:03 PM

Yes, I'd love to see the NIV Study Bible notes. That was my standard Bible for years.

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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 1:00 AM

Thomas Wooded:

Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?

Yes

Thomas Wooded:

What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?

Yes

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Stephen Thorp | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 2:58 AM

Yes

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 4:00 AM

I've expressed interest in it several times. I even contacted Zondervan a few months ago.

Me: "Will the NIV Study Bible be released for Logos? If so, will it be available as a stand-alone product or in a package, or both?

I'm also interested to know if there will be an Old Testament study package with something like the NIV Study Bible, NIDOTTE, and the illustrated OT Bible Backgrounds commentary?"

 

Zondervan replied: "I am sorry, but Zondervan does not have this information. You would need to contact Logos. The only information that I have available is what is on their web site.
http://www.logos.com/zondervan"

 

So either their rep was totally clueless, or Zondervan isn't making its own packages or decisions about what to release, which would surprise me.

 

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 4:45 AM

Do you think we can expect NIV Study Bible coming to Logos or we are to expect all new NIV and possibly new NIV Study Bible in a near future? New NIV should be here in 2011, if I am not mistaken.

Bohuslav

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Fred | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 5:16 AM

Ben:

So either their rep was totally clueless, or Zondervan isn't making its own packages or decisions about what to release, which would surprise me.

Or, the rep is just being intentionally evasive (that might be "official policy" while negotiations are going on).  And, yes, I would also be surprised if Zondervan were not involved in decisions involving its own products.

Fred

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 5:18 AM

I'm thinking that since the NIVSB was Zondervan's "off the shelf" entry level Pradis product, it would only make sense that we will see it in Logos.

Perhaps it will be available when Zondervan releases their boxed retail version of Logos...

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 6:51 AM

Thomas Wooded:

Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.

I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?

Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?

What about study bible notes from other popular and/or "classic" study bibles?

Thanks!

 

Peace and Joy in the Lord to you, Thomas!       *smile*

Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price.  It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %.   There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment.  Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.

Excellent resource.

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744

Yours in Christ,

........  Mel

 

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 7:05 AM

I assume that Z will introduce a new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works right now at Z.

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 7:11 AM

 

Milford Charles Murray:

Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price.  It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %.   There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment.  Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.

Excellent resource.

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744

Yours in Christ,

........  Mel

Mel, I had not known that.  thank you!  I assume it does not include maps and such, does it?

 

Edwin Bowden:

I assume that Z will introduce a new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works right now at Z.

I wondered that, too.  But then, it took Crossway a few years from the publishing of the ESV to the release of their SB.  I would imagine that if Z were releasing a brand new SB, it would take a few years after the full translation appears.  I would think a new SB would be in order a) because of the new translation and b) to compete more "freshly" with the excellent ESVSB

 

 

 

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 5:09 PM

Dan DeVilder:

 

Milford Charles Murray:

Concordia Publishing House has the NIV Study Bible adapted with some Luther and Lutheran Comments at a reasonable price.  It is essentiallly the NIV Study Bible, perhaps 90 Plus %.   There is a little + indicated where there is a Lutheran note or comment.  Each book of the Bible also has a paragraphy of what Luther thought about it at the very beginning of the chapter.

Excellent resource.

http://www.logos.com/products/details/1744

Yours in Christ,

........  Mel

Mel, I had not known that.  thank you!  I assume it does not include maps and such, does it?

 

Edwin Bowden:

I assume that Z will introduce a new revised NIVSB with the introduction of the new 2011 version of the NIV, since that is their signature product. It is probably in the works right now at Z.

I wondered that, too.  But then, it took Crossway a few years from the publishing of the ESV to the release of their SB.  I would imagine that if Z were releasing a brand new SB, it would take a few years after the full translation appears.  I would think a new SB would be in order a) because of the new translation and b) to compete more "freshly" with the excellent ESVSB

 

 

 

The Charts are there!    The maps are not ....

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 5 2010 7:50 PM

Milford Charles Murray:
The Charts are there!    The maps are not ....

the charts are more helpful, anyway, for the most part.  Thanks!

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 6:26 AM

Dan DeVilder:

Milford Charles Murray:
The Charts are there!    The maps are not ....

the charts are more helpful, anyway, for the most part.  Thanks!

Am trying to attach a page from the Concordia Study Bible ....            John 1 is a basic example, I would think ........         Note, for instance, verse 9 - there's a "cross" there ..     that is a Concordia note  ..       if you have a print copy of the NIV, you might want to compare ... 

Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 6:46 AM

Bohuslav Wojnar:
New NIV should be here in 2011

HAAAARUUUUMPH!  New NIV?  New NIV?!!!!  If the old NIV was good enough for Jesus and St. Paul, it is good enough for me!

Has word usage and vocabulary changed so that the NIV is no longer easily understood?  Have they discovered places where the translation is incorrect and can be improved?  Or is this just a sales gimmick.

Not that I don't like new translations.  I am not just stuck in the past (even if I don't think a decent song has been written since 1975.)  I certainly think that the New Living Translation is a vast improvement over the old Living Bible, and it at least deserves the title "Translation".  I even like the New RSV somewhat.  I like the Message paraphrase for devotional reading.  But I really don't want them messing with my NIV or my NASV for that matter.

Okay, I will give the New New International Version at try, but I won't like it.  It has to be a plot - a conspiracy!

And yes, I would love to have the NIV Study Bible notes - so long as they are the OLD NIV Study Bible notes, and not some new fangled fad.

HAAARUUUUMPH!

 

 

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Paul Golder | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 7:01 AM

Michael Childs:
Has word usage and vocabulary changed so that the NIV is no longer easily understood?

"Samson answered her, “If anyone ties me with seven fresh thongs that have not been dried, I’ll become as weak as any other man.” Then the rulers of the Philistines brought her seven fresh thongs that had not been dried, and she tied him with them. With men hidden in the room, she called to him, “Samson, the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the thongs as easily as a piece of string snaps when it comes close to a flame. So the secret of his strength was not discovered"

Judges 16:7–9

I can't help but imagine the "mind picture" some will get when they think of wet, non-fresh thongs...

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 7:01 AM

Thomas Wooded:

Before I bought my hard copy ESV Study Bible (BTW, I'm VERY glad that The ESV Study Bible Notes now have a ship date!), I used to use my NIV Study Bible quite a bit.

I read in another post that there had been some friction between Logos and Zondervan (?) that may now be resolved. Does this mean that we might look forward to an NIV Study Bible Notes product in the (near?) future?

Does anyone else have any interest in such a product?

 

I've been asking for this for years, I've even typed in a lot of the NIVSB notes as notes in L3. I would love to see it in L4. Stek's intro and notes on the Psalms alone would be worth what we're paying for the ESV Study Bible notes (IMHO, of course).

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 7:03 AM

Thanks Paul.  That one makes me smile.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 7:13 AM

Paul Golder:

I can't help but imagine the "mind picture" some will get when they think of wet, non-fresh thongs...

It'll depend on whether they speak UK/Commonwealth English...

or American...

(um, I won't be illustrating that one for you; it wouldn't get past the forum censor software, I'm sure)

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 6 2010 7:42 AM

Paul Golder:
"Samson answered her, “If anyone ties me with seven fresh thongs that have not been dried, I’ll become as weak as any other man.” Then the rulers of the Philistines brought her seven fresh thongs that had not been dried, and she tied him with them. With men hidden in the room, she called to him, “Samson, the Philistines are upon you!” But he snapped the thongs as easily as a piece of string snaps when it comes close to a flame. So the secret of his strength was not discovered"

. . . my hearty laugh of the day, I thank you for!

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