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DIsciple II | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 8 2010 11:34 PM

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Dan Sheppard:
 But the red text read does not sound different from the un-red text that is read.

What about the un-read un-red text? Wink

I wonder what Æthelred the Unready would have to say about all of this.

Speaking of red I think Phillip prefers his a little more like this ... with the standard text in lime green of course

But getting back on topic,  I concur with Dave its great that the ESV SB is being released on the 15/09/10....

 although Logos and Crossway could have save a lot of confusion and released it on the 10/10/10 but we've waited long enough.

 

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Blane Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 5:05 AM

Mr. Wojnar,

         I am confused whether or not the Logos version of the ESV Study Bible will include the narration or will it have the computer voice reading? Thanks, Blane

 

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 5:16 AM

Blane,

The narration available online will not be a part of the ESVSB in Logos, it will be the computerized voice.

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Blane Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 5:22 AM

Thank you Thomas

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 11:07 AM

Blane Thompson:

Mr. Wojnar,

         I am confused whether or not the Logos version of the ESV Study Bible will include the narration or will it have the computer voice reading? Thanks, Blane

 

Yes, Thomas is right. Logos has a computer voice reading. ESV Study Bible on-line however has a great audio narration. It would be great to have it in Logos but there is no information from Logos that they would consider implementing that to the Logos version of ESV Study Bible.

Bohuslav

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 9:28 PM

Just a thought - this makes sense.  The on-line reading voice is not part of the ESV Study Bible.  I own the ESV Study Bible and it does not have the reading voice.  

On the other hand, purchasing the ESV Study Bible did give me access to the on-line version with the study voice.

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Blane Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 3:29 AM

I know your right Floyd, I have it also and I use the online version a lot. It is very well done and easy to use. I was just curious about the narration I hate the computer voice in Logos. I've decided for myself that I really don't need the ESV Study Bible in Logos, ESV's online Bible is working quite well for my purposes. It's not like Logos isn't giving me plenty of opportunity to spend money. God bless, Blane

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 3:39 AM

Blane Thompson:

I know your right Floyd, I have it also and I use the online version a lot. It is very well done and easy to use. I was just curious about the narration I hate the computer voice in Logos. I've decided for myself that I really don't need the ESV Study Bible in Logos, ESV's online Bible is working quite well for my purposes. It's not like Logos isn't giving me plenty of opportunity to spend money. God bless, Blane

Blane, just to make it clear: the voice reading in Logos is not Logos native feature, it just uses Windows (or other OS) voice reading function. So the quality of the installed voices in OS influences the quality of the voice reading function also in Logos. I too own ESV Study Bible (the paper version) and use on-line version for daily reading (listening). Still I am really looking forward to have it in Logos. To have all the notes integrated to the Logos system is way better thing than just stand-alone ESV SB. The narration would be just on top of it and I would really like to have that but even without it Logos version of ESV SB is "must-have" for me.

Bohuslav

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 6:05 AM

Blane Thompson:
. I've decided for myself that I really don't need the ESV Study Bible in Logos, ESV's online Bible is working quite well for my purposes.

 

I have the hardcopy version, too, but I chose to go with the Logos Study Notes for these reasons:

  1. Immediate access in a software environment I am always in
  2. Better search capability (especially those longer articles)
  3. maybe most importantly: having the images of the SB in Logos format.  I assume (maybe wrongly?) that those will be part of Bible Places/Things, etc.  Those are very nice images, and not as easily accessed/used in the current format.

Bohuslav: I was wondering if Logos might work for permission from Crossway to give all ESV SB purchases the code for online access/listening.  I wouldn't think that be a huge problem, unless it is due to a little thing we like to call "more profit."

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 11:28 AM

I'm on the fence still. I have it on my ipad and in print...It could be handy on logos though. I guess I need to make up my mind by next week.Huh?

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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 2:44 PM

i have thought about selling my hard copy--bless someone who isn't into Logos.  I have an ESV paper version that is much easier to carry than the SB behemoth.  And with all that info on Logos soon . . . . and the sale will help pay for the notes.  OR, i could give it away.

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Ralph Mauch | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 5:04 PM

John Kight:
I have it on my ipad and in print

Ok John, now you've just stirred up more interest in getting an ipad... will this link into the webpage to listen to the narration? Can't wait until the Notes ship!!! I've been sitting on the fence when it comes to getting either an ipad or iphone.

John Kight:
It could be handy on logos though

Anything on logos is handy, but I'm too cheap to get it all, but the EVS will be a great tool.

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John Kight | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 10 2010 7:00 PM

Ralph,

Crossway actually has a ESV study bible app with all the great features:

Highlighting

Note taking

searching

study bible notes

and yes the narration!

its a wonderful tool and only $14.99.

 

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 6:41 AM

John Kight:

Ralph,

Crossway actually has a ESV study bible app with all the great features:

Highlighting

Note taking

searching

study bible notes

and yes the narration!

its a wonderful tool and only $14.99.

 

Yes, I have it (I mean the iPhone version) and it's great. The text follows the narration voice reading. Perfect. But I need to have it in Logos. I want to stop voice reading in the place I hear something what interests me and start Bible Word Study right from the spot. You can do that only in Logos. And you can continue with all the power of Logos Library. That is the reason to have it in Logos with all the goods. Before we have it in Logos (including the narration) I will keep my iPhone ESV SB from Crossway Wink

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Ralph Mauch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 8:26 AM

John Kight:
and yes the narration

Thanks John, I guess I will have to start checking out the iphone and ipad... probably heavily favoring the ipad. Hope the good folks at Crossway will work with logos a bit better!

 

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Ralph Mauch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 8:42 AM

Bohuslav Wojnar:
And you can continue with all the power of Logos Library.

Exactly Boshslav! That's something that I would pay extra for, if Crossway and logos shared, or give permission to meld the products in our PC Bible software!

I currently use the "read" function at times, because it makes me read the text without distractions, so that I'm in a reading mode without stopping (the only way it's not irritating, with out thinking to myself "what did she say?"). I also have noticed that the reading function doesn't work with all of my books, and better with some then with others.

I'm still a big fan of playing my Bible cassettes while driving, so I can get the whole book in my head... great stuff to meditate with while stuck in trafficHuh?. Did I just reveal how antiquated I am???

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Edwin Bowden | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 9:04 AM

Ralph Mauch:
I'm still a big fan of playing my Bible cassettes while driving, so I can get the whole book in my head... great stuff to meditate with while stuck in trafficHuh?. Did I just reveal how antiquated I am???

At least they're not on 8 track tapes.

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JimTowler | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 11 2010 11:18 PM

I have the printed ESV Study Bible, and hence online access to it also. I also have the Kindle version from Amazon (cheap). And every soon, I will have the Logos one!!!

Some time back, I purchased one of the spoken MP3s of the ESV from Crossways, as a download. I have them as files on my old Nokia phone, so I can hear them when waiting, with little else to do whie waiting for a train/bus etc.

I got a very basic Windows program working, using the COM API feature of the Logos 4.1 Beta, so I could jump around in the ESV in Logos, and my WIndows Media Player would automatically jump to the correct MP3 file, and within about 1 verse. The MP3 would play whatever verse I jumped to, and the screen would update after every verse, so the audio and text would follow along.

I expect others would value such  thing, so after Logos 4.1 goes Gold (Release), subjct to interest and my "free time", I will explore making this work more solid so those wanting it could also use it. They would each need to purchased the MP3 set from Crossways of course (and have ESV in Logos).

Better would be if Logos added "Recorded Audio Bible" support directly into the core product, so anyone could use any recorded Bible they cared to purchase/obtain. All it would need is a "config" file that linked MP3 file names to Book/Chapter, and maybe some timing data, so the verses in the audio track within Logos4 is a little closer. For now, I just scale the verse-count of a chapter against the time play-time for the chapter, so its close, but not perfect.

1) Bring on EVS Study Bible for Logos ...

EDIT: The above is full of grammer/spelling errors. Such is life ... Smile

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Larrie Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 12 2010 6:10 AM

Hello all.  Not into posting that much but I do have a question from this discussion.

When reading the ESV or any Bible from the Logos.com site, how to you turn on the narration?

I have tried the computer voice with Logos but some of the pronunciation is lacking.

Thanks for your help.

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Blane Thompson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 12 2010 12:32 PM

Larrie; I have tried the computer voice with Logos but some of the pronunciation is lacking.

Logos' computer animated voice is what it is Larrie. The ESV Study Bible ( hard copy ) when purchased, comes with a code that gives you access to an online version of the Bible. It is a great site and has a very nice narration of the Bible.  I have Logos 4 and assume that you have one the Logos products as well. Hope this helps.

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