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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 29 2009 7:27 PM

Those of you who have Kindles only, please.

1. How long have you had yours?
2. What flavor do you have?
3. Have you had any problems?
4. How easy is it to locate resources? (Online is not at all easy)

george
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Bill Fitch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2009 7:47 PM

Answers:

1.  Since December 2007

2.  The original

3.  Battery died after a year - had to replace. Otherwise, none.

4.  I don't see any problem - ordering from Amazon's Kindle store is SO easy....  I live in Canada so can't use the Whispernet wireless to download directly, but I either update when I'm in the States or download to my computer and transfer with USB.  It's one of the things I love about Kindle - I can hear about a book in a casual discussion and be reading my own copy within a few minutes.

5. I know there wasn't a #5, but let me add:  I love my Kindle, but I find I almost never use it at home. I have too many 'real' books on my must-read shelf.  But I travel a lot, sometimes for 2-3 months at a time and in places where you can't usually find any books, and it has transformed my travel times.  I have my laptop with a large Logos library, but reading on the Kindle is so much more restful on my eyes. So if I need to study, out comes the laptop.  If I want to read, it's the Kindle.

Bill Fitch

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2009 8:07 PM

BillFitch:

Answers:

1.  Since December 2007

2.  The original

3.  Battery died after a year - had to replace. Otherwise, none.

4.  I don't see any problem - ordering from Amazon's Kindle store is SO easy....  I live in Canada so can't use the Whispernet wireless to download directly, but I either update when I'm in the States or download to my computer and transfer with USB.  It's one of the things I love about Kindle - I can hear about a book in a casual discussion and be reading my own copy within a few minutes.

5. I know there wasn't a #5, but let me add:  I love my Kindle, but I find I almost never use it at home. I have too many 'real' books on my must-read shelf.  But I travel a lot, sometimes for 2-3 months at a time and in places where you can't usually find any books, and it has transformed my travel times.  I have my laptop with a large Logos library, but reading on the Kindle is so much more restful on my eyes. So if I need to study, out comes the laptop.  If I want to read, it's the Kindle.

Bill Fitch

Bill,

Thank you for your response.  I think that will be helpful.  It does raise two more questions:

1.  How much does it cost to replace the battery?
2.  Can you do it yourself (assuming you're not a fumble-fingers)?

george
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Bill Fitch | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2009 8:31 PM

Replacement batteries are $19.95 at Amazon.com.  I think even a fumble-fingers could manage it - no tools, one small connector to disengage which took a couple of tries with my big fingers, but basically a snap.

BTW, from the specs it seems that the batteries on the new 2.0 version and also on the larger version have got more staying power than the original. (Mine, I can keep charged for 2-3 days of moderate use. I travel with a spare battery in case charging opportunities are rare.)  If it sees fewer charge cycles, I'm thnking the battery should have a longer life, too.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 29 2009 9:05 PM

BillFitch:

Replacement batteries are $19.95 at Amazon.com.  I think even a fumble-fingers could manage it - no tools, one small connector to disengage which took a couple of tries with my big fingers, but basically a snap.

BTW, from the specs it seems that the batteries on the new 2.0 version and also on the larger version have got more staying power than the original. (Mine, I can keep charged for 2-3 days of moderate use. I travel with a spare battery in case charging opportunities are rare.)  If it sees fewer charge cycles, I'm thnking the battery should have a longer life, too.

The batteries seem a bit salty, but it's good to know that they aren't difficult to change.  I'm hardly a "fumble-fingers", but if someone who isn't too mechanically able can do it then I know I can too.  Yes, rechargeable batteries do develop a memory and should be completely discharged before recharging (if possible).

george
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Mike Breen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 5:00 PM

About two years

First generation.

No.

OK.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 5:42 PM

1& 2. I have had my Kindle 2 since the week it came out.  I think that was in April, but can't remember for sure.

3.  No real problems at all except that a book I am reading now was clearly scanned and not edited that closely.  I paid for it and it has a TON of errors.

4. The short answer is it is easy.  Open the kindle store and search for them and you find it.  The long answer is that while it is easy to search the kindle store there have been a few books that I could not find.  However, any popular book will be there.

One further thing is that any content that you have in a Word Document can be easily sent to your Kindle via a special email address.  I have done this many times and while not as pretty as a formatted book, they are adequate and makes reading such content convenient.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 5:56 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

1& 2. I have had my Kindle 2 since the week it came out.  I think that was in April, but can't remember for sure.

3.  No real problems at all except that a book I am reading now was clearly scanned and not edited that closely.  I paid for it and it has a TON of errors.

4. The short answer is it is easy.  Open the kindle store and search for them and you find it.  The long answer is that while it is easy to search the kindle store there have been a few books that I could not find.  However, any popular book will be there.

One further thing is that any content that you have in a Word Document can be easily sent to your Kindle via a special email address.  I have done this many times and while not as pretty as a formatted book, they are adequate and makes reading such content convenient.

When you say that searching is easy, how does it compare with searching for a print book on Amazon.  I'm asking because I thought that looking through the books listed on Amazon's Kindle pages on the internet was a major pain.  You had to go through page after page after page after ... just to find anything.  Can you search by author, title, publisher, etc?

Are these books images or are they text?  In other words, can I copy from them and paste them into a document?

george
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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 6:49 PM


It is very easy.  You simply open the store and start typing the name of the book on the keyboard.  It is much easier than on the net version of kindle store.  You cannot copy into a document, but you can highlight words which are then put into a document on your kindle that can be downloaded from the device and opened in any text editor.  Also you can add notes and it will also go into that text file on the kindle.

So let's say you downloaded the ESV and you highlighted John 3:16.  It would put the text of that into the text file.  Then you could position the cursor on the word For and start typing and it will add anything you type to the note file.  When you connect your Kindle to PC you can then access the drive like a USB disk and copy the file over and open it and then copy/paste.  Not perfect but considering what the kindle is, that is a pretty good alternative and actually easier than copying from a book.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 7:05 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:


It is very easy.  You simply open the store and start typing the name of the book on the keyboard.  It is much easier than on the net version of kindle store.  You cannot copy into a document, but you can highlight words which are then put into a document on your kindle that can be downloaded from the device and opened in any text editor.  Also you can add notes and it will also go into that text file on the kindle.

So let's say you downloaded the ESV and you highlighted John 3:16.  It would put the text of that into the text file.  Then you could position the cursor on the word For and start typing and it will add anything you type to the note file.  When you connect your Kindle to PC you can then access the drive like a USB disk and copy the file over and open it and then copy/paste.  Not perfect but considering what the kindle is, that is a pretty good alternative and actually easier than copying from a book.

Thanks, that's precisely the information I wanted.  I may change my mind and get one after all.  Still, that price -- ouch !  Almost the 1st installment of Patrologia Graece

One more thing.  Do you think that the PDF capability, etc, would be worth getting the DX model?  It's larger, but it's still only about the size of a very, very, very thick piece of paper.

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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 7:23 PM

All I know is that PDF is not the greatest on the Kindle 2.  Not having used the DX I cannot comment on that with any knowledge.  Personally the cost would be what would keep me from going with the DX and the size seems a little big.  The 2 is perfect size.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 30 2009 11:43 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:

All I know is that PDF is not the greatest on the Kindle 2.  Not having used the DX I cannot comment on that with any knowledge.  Personally the cost would be what would keep me from going with the DX and the size seems a little big.  The 2 is perfect size.

I lied.  I thought of one more thing.  Have you tried Hebrew and Greek on the Kindle? [Probably not]

george
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Christian B. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 8:55 AM

Hi George,

As far as I've read, not a Kindle owner (sadly, because the Whisper net is not supported outside the US), the DX model is for scholars and is geared towards note taking in particular. It is rather expensive tho'...

 

edit: here you go.. a good review of the DX : http://seekingalpha.com/article/143008-amazon-s-kindle-dx-hands-on-review

cheers,

Chris.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 10:31 AM

It seems that I keep coming up with more questions.  Hopefully this will be about the last.

When you get a Kindle how do you "order" resources.  What I mean is really how you pay for them -- though not really that either.  Is it like Logos in that you register your credit card with them so that when you select a book it is then charged?  I suppose that's about the best way to ask it.

george
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Kevin A. Purcell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 1:58 PM

As for Greek/Hebrew, I have not used them.

Ordering is done through your Amazon account.  It is automatically set up for you when you order the kindle I believe.  Can't remember.  If it isn't you just go to the Amazon store and set it up that way I guess.  I just know that the books I have purchased were automatically charged the card I have on file with Amazon.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 2:39 PM

Kevin A. Purcell:
Ordering is done through your Amazon account.  It is automatically set up for you when you order the kindle I believe.  Can't remember.  If it isn't you just go to the Amazon store and set it up that way I guess.  I just know that the books I have purchased were automatically charged the card I have on file with Amazon.

Thus far whenever I order from Amazon or Dove books or Abebooks I always tell them to forget it after the order is placed.  Logos is the only place where I've kept my card on file.  I guess that will need to change.

george
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Fred Greco | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 6:38 PM

I have a Kindle DX.  I like it very much.  The PDF support is great.  I have my secretary scan the relevant pages of my commentaries (preaching through Philippians now) and I can load them on the Kindle and have them all travel around with me.

Very nice.

Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

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J.R. Miller | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 1 2009 6:47 PM

Fred Greco:

I have a Kindle DX.  I like it very much.  The PDF support is great.  I have my secretary scan the relevant pages of my commentaries (preaching through Philippians now) and I can load them on the Kindle and have them all travel around with me.

Very nice.

Wow, a secretary and a Kindle!  As a bivocational church planter,I would settle for either one Wink  

You are blessed brother!  Enjoy it!

 

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Scott Fillmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2009 1:02 PM

Not to do a total self plug, but I wrote two reviews on the kindle 2 (one on a defective screen, which Amazon is now charging to replace).

http://www.scottfillmer.com/2009/03/27/a-not-so-normal-kindle-2-review/ - Kindle 2 Review

http://www.scottfillmer.com/2009/03/16/damaged-or-defective-kindle-2-screen-photos/ - Damaged Screen

Personally I can't wait until Apple comes out with a tablet that will double as an ebook reader that is sure to totally kill the kindle, until then, I guess I just wait

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Randall Hartman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 28 2009 1:24 PM

I had a Kindle 2 for about 3 months and sold it.  I just couldn't get past 2 things.  First, I felt as though I was actually renting my books.  After paying for several books to read on my Kindle I realized I could not sell them to anyone else.  In my mind that means I am renting not buying. Second the "clippings" feature is way too restrictive for me.  It was shocking to me to discover that about 40% of what I had clipped on a book I was studying was unavailable because I exceeded some sort of limit.  Imagine getting that message with any book on your Libronix library.

I may revisit the idea when Amazon stops restricting their format.

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