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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 31 2012 1:29 PM

An interesting read: https://www.eff.org/wp/digital-books-and-your-rights#toc

Part of it says (emphasis mine): 

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As noted above, the DRM and contracts that accompany leading e-book readers and licensed content inhibit follow-on innovation. For example, the Kindle Terms and Conditions require that customers not "encourage, assist or authorize any other person to, modify, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Device or the Software, whether in whole or in part, create any derivative works from or of the Software, or bypass, modify, defeat or tamper with or circumvent any of the functions or protections of the Device or Software or any mechanisms operatively linked to the Software . . . ." In other words, no tinkering with or improving your device! Innovators will be reluctant to experiment with these products if they could face lawsuits for their trouble.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 31 2012 1:30 PM

Dave Dunkin:

Philip Spitzer:
Are you able to distinguish to us whether it was a statement like "we have considered your request and the answer is no" or simply no reply yet but someone took something else as a yes.

I don't have that information right now but I will post here when I do.

Wonder about follow-up communication between Logos and David C Cook about mobile resource usage ?

Thankful for 89 % of my Logos library being available for mobile use without needing to purchase resource again, including favorite commentary series.

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Mike Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 1 2012 7:04 AM

Greg M:
We purchased these books but because of greed Logos and these so called Christian publishers are preventing us from using our books on the different devices that we have.

It is not Logos preventing us.  Logos would love for us to be able to use all our books on the iPad app.  It is 100% the publisher.  Complain to the publisher.  Contact them and if enough unhappy customers do, they may change their minds. 

A complaint in this forum does no good if not followed up by contacting the one group that is responsible - publishers.

 

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Greg M | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Feb 1 2012 7:48 AM

Michael Childs:

Greg M:
We purchased these books but because of greed Logos and these so called Christian publishers are preventing us from using our books on the different devices that we have.

It is not Logos preventing us.  Logos would love for us to be able to use all our books on the iPad app.  It is 100% the publisher.  Complain to the publisher.  Contact them and if enough unhappy customers do, they may change their minds. 

A complaint in this forum does no good if not followed up by contacting the one group that is responsible - publishers.

 

I wrote that 1.5 years ago.  I found that I was wrong about Logos since then.  My understanding is now that Logos is making stand for us in not letting publishers force us to pay for resources more than 1 time.

I tried to contact Cook through their site and it wouldn't go through.

 

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Brian Krause | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 5 2012 5:11 AM

How many of us use David C. Cook Sunday School material. I think a note with the next check might help as well. They know pastors are their bread and butter for sales of Sunday School material. Let them know that not releasing the books reflects poorly on the company and may affect whether you continue to use them as a supplier for other resources.  Translation: Release the books I already paid for, or we will look elsewhere for Sunday School materials.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 5 2012 7:45 AM

Brian Krause:
Translation: Release the books I already paid for, or we will look elsewhere for Sunday School materials.

Yes Couldn't hurt! Smile

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Brian Krause | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 7 2012 12:40 PM

Got this response today from Cook:

... We are in the process of getting the licensing needed to have product available on different electronic devices. I am sorry that we aren’t moving as fast in that direction as you would like but we do realize that we live in an electronic world and that is the direction we are moving also. Some people feel we move too quickly and others feel we move too slowly. I guess we can’t please everyone. Thank you for your patience and understanding in this ever changing industry.

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Andrew Bacon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 5:23 AM

I just wrote David Cook. We should continue to ask that they honor a one license allows reading on all devices that run logos. I am thankful that logos will fight for the customers like us in patience. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 6:34 AM

Brian Krause:

Got this response today from Cook:

... We are in the process of getting the licensing needed to have product available on different electronic devices.

I think this sounds much more promising than the answers several months ago. Also, David C. Cook now publish about a hundred books on Vyrso and twitter about being proud of it, which should give them another reason to reconsider this respective licence (after all, other products of this publisher are available on mobile devices).

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 6:51 AM

I was disappointed as you are not having the BKC available on Logos. I do have the Laridian Pocket Bible App and the BKC is available to use on the iPad on that App. I don't understand why Laridian has permission and not Logos, but I'm just happy to have it on my iPad. 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 6:58 AM

Andrew Bacon:
I just wrote David Cook. We should continue to ask that they honor a one license allows reading on all devices that run logos. I am thankful that logos will fight for the customers like us in patience.

Great first post Andrew - Welcome to the forums! Smile

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:02 AM

Bev N:
I don't understand why Laridian has permission and not Logos

Because you paid a separate license fee to use it on your mobile device. Logos COULD do the same, but what would happen if every publisher demanded a separate license for mobile? Ultimately, you would have to purchase every book twice that you wanted to use on your mobile app. Its better to not have the BKC than to lose access to the rest of your library.

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:11 AM

I bought BKC many years ago on my PDA and did not pay anything extra to use it on my iPad2. Maybe I misunderstand what the extra fee is. Or perhaps Laridian PB was a mobile device to begin with that I paid nothing extra when I use it on my iPad2.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 7:17 AM

Bev N:
perhaps Laridian PB was a mobile device to begin with that I paid nothing extra when I use it on my iPad2

Yes. The publisher considers a mobile device and a computer separate entities which require separate licenses. 

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 12:55 PM

Alabama24, I'm reading Laridian Pocket Bible and I don't think they have this policy you are referring to... Laridian Policy: When you move from one of our supported platforms to another, you take your books with you. We have a “buy it once” policy — Bibles and reference books you bought for the phone you owned last year can be downloaded and installed to your new phone (assuming they're available for that phone). If you own PocketBible for Windows, books you buy for your phone can also be installed on your Windows PC for those times when you're studying at your desk. Just buy the appropriate Bible reader program for your new device, then log into your account to download your books!

 

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 1:17 PM

Bev - I know nothing of Laridian. What I do know is that the policy of Logos is to allow you to view your resources on all devices… unless there are technical or legal (licensing) reasons. Perhaps Cook has given Laridian a different contract than Logos. Are you sure that it works on their computer app? Their policy seems identical to Logos: SEE HERE

support.laridian.com:
Please note that for technical and licensing considerations not all books and Bibles are available for all computing platforms.

EDIT: Upon further review, it does appear that they can offer the BKC on both platforms without an additional fee.

 

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 1:35 PM

I think Logos needs to check into this or perhaps another person at Logos may see it differently...something just doesn't seem right at Logos with the BKC.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 2:12 PM

Bev N:
I think Logos needs to check into this or perhaps another person at Logos may see it differently...something just doesn't seem right at Logos with the BKC.

Have you read this thread from the beginning? In it you will find correspondence from Logos & emails that forums users have posted from David C. Cook. Logos does not have permission to allow us to view the BKC. David C. Cook states this in an email (which you can read in THIS POST).

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Bev N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 8 2012 2:27 PM

Third attempt at posting...Yes, read from beginning. Commendable for contacting David C Cook. Just my opinion there is more to this. Thanks for your help, you do a super job on the forum.

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Mar 26 2012 2:39 PM

The Bible Knowledge Commentary should be available on mobile devices and Biblia.com now.

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