wrong word count in graph bible result

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Markus Schiller | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Aug 17 2010 2:21 PM

The Bible Word Study for דמות shows 23 results in the mini bible results graph. However there are 25 occurences of this word in the OT. The occurences in the biblical books displayed in Graph Bible Results however add up to 25.

Any hints on what's going on?

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 2:45 PM

I get 23 in the graph if I use the ESV as my English translation and 24 if I use the NAS. However when I search the ESV for that lemma I get 25 results. Ditto for the NAS. So there must be something going on with the count in that graph for this word.

If you double click on that little bar graph and in the pane that opens select a horizontal bar chart as shown below, you can hover over each bar to get the hit count. I totaled them to 25, which is the right number.

There have been discrepancies noted in the 'count' on the small bar graph and search totals noted before. I was under the impression that had been fixed. It certainly isn't working for this word.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 2:58 PM

Mark A. Smith:
I get 23 in the graph if I use the ESV as my English translation and 24 if I use the NAS. However when I search the ESV for that lemma I get 25 results.

I think that's an artifact (or bug, depending on how you look at it) of using a Reverse Interlinear for the counting. The ESV doesn't have a associated English word mapping for two of the occurrences, and that explains the differences:

 

Same for NASB, except it has only one verse that doesn't have a associated English word.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 3:16 PM

Todd Phillips:
I think that's an artifact (or bug, depending on how you look at it) of using a Reverse Interlinear for the counting. The ESV doesn't have a associated English word mapping for two of the occurrences, and that explains the differences:

That is interesting, but why is the graph (in one place) reporting the hits where a word is not translated and in another place (the example I clipped) it reports all occurrences? It is working from the same RI and the same text. It does come up with the correct number of hits in a search of the underlying text (as you've shown) even though there is no translated English word.

BTW note that in your example in Eze 10:1 the word that should have been found is the word just before the results column (like). In 1:22 the Hebrew word is first in the verse and is translated in the phrase 'the likeness of the expanse' which comes later in English. Perhaps there is some additional work on the RI text needed.

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 17 2010 3:21 PM

Mark A. Smith:
Perhaps there is some additional work on the RI text needed.

Tell me about it. I find word mapping inconsistencies all over the place.

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