Beta 9 - Yay, Smart Tags Are Here!

Page 2 of 3 (41 items) < Previous 1 2 3 Next >
This post has 40 Replies | 1 Follower

Posts 15667
Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 4:36 PM | Locked

BillS:

Hi Rosie,

I've tried reboot... didn't help...

Thanks, Bill. You and I are in the same boat on this, so if you find something that works for you, be sure to let me know.

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 4:39 PM | Locked

Rosie Perera:

Thanks, Bill. You and I are in the same boat on this, so if you find something that works for you, be sure to let me know.

Will do, Rosie. I trust you'll do the same... Smile

I'm 2/3 convinced it some setting in Office or system security that I haven't yet found , given that it appears to be installed correctly, just not operative.

Any thoughts?

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 136
David A. Peterson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 4:54 PM | Locked

BillS:
some setting in Office or system security

Check your Micro permissions

DP

Posts 336
Peter Cellini | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 5:59 PM | Locked

I can't get smart tags working either with Office 2007.  V3 smart tags work fine.  But no purple line for V4

Posts 15667
Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 6:02 PM | Locked

BillS:

Rosie Perera:

Thanks, Bill. You and I are in the same boat on this, so if you find something that works for you, be sure to let me know.

Will do, Rosie. I trust you'll do the same... Smile

I'm 2/3 convinced it some setting in Office or system security that I haven't yet found , given that it appears to be installed correctly, just not operative.

Any thoughts?

 

Yes, I'll let you know too, if I find a fix for it.

I found this on a software support forum after Googling for other reasons SmartTags might not work: "Often, the reason SmartTags don't work is because you have a language conflict. SmartTags are usually language-specific. With the cursor in text where you expect a SMartTag to appear, go to Tools/Language/Set language. Is it English (or whichever language version of Word you've installed)?" I selected some of the text where I was typing Scripture references and checked the Language. It was set to "English (Canada)", so I tried setting it to "English (United States)." That didn't help either.

Based on your mention of security, I checked in my Word "Trust Center" settings and noticed that Macro Settings was set to "Disable all macros with notification." That was a bit too restrictive for me (I'd been noticing that macros haven't been working for me lately) so I relaxed it a bit to "Disable all macros except digitally signed macros." I figured that wouldn't affect SmartTags at all, because they are not implemented as macros, and indeed it didn't make any difference.

I also noticed that "Trust access to the VBA project object model" was not checked, so I checked that, and that didn't fix SmartTags either.

So I'm stumped. I think we need Logos to provide a debug version of the DLL with diagnostic logging output to figure out what's going on and why it isn't working. Is the event that triggers the DLL being called even getting picked up? If the DLL is being called, where is it failing silently?

Actually, I did just think of something else: I wonder if there is some registry setting that we should have which we don't have? I've done a search through my entire registry for the text "SmartTags" (with "Match whole string only" unchecked). I did find Logos4SmartTagsLib among the TypeLib entries, and other mentions of it scattered around. I'd like to see what someone for whom SmartTags is working finds in their registry. Here's something interesting, in particular, that I found in my HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\Common\Smart Tags key. There's a key in there called "Recognizers" which includes recognizers for all the Microsoft SmartTags, namely date, phone, stockticker, and time. But none of those other CLSIDs are expandable, so there don't appear to be "recognizers" for the Logos Bible reference smart tags. And Logos doesn't appear under Applications. And Logos isn't mentioned in any of the "Actions" keys. Someone else for whom this is working, could you check your registry for these?

 

Bill, are you able to get other SmartTags besides Logos ones to work? Date, Phone number, etc.? I am. It's just the Logos ones that don't work.

David A. Peterson:

BillS:
some setting in Office or system security

Check your Micro permissions

What are Micro permissions?

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 6:17 PM | Locked

Smile

David A. Peterson:

BillS:
some setting in Office or system security

Check your Micro permissions

DP

Hi David,

If you meant macro permissions, I'd already done that... I changed them to the loosest setting, but still no joy...  Afterwards, I reset to my preferred setting: Disable all macros except digitally signed macros.

If you meant Micro permissions, I'm with Rosie - need help what you meant.

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 6:20 PM | Locked

Rosie Perera:

Bill, are you able to get other SmartTags besides Logos ones to work? Date, Phone number, etc.? I am. It's just the Logos ones that don't work.

Yep, all of them. I'm able even to reinstall the old L3 macro, & it's working again.

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 2431
Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 6:22 PM | Locked

Rosie Perera:

 Someone else for whom this is working, could you check your registry for these?

Working for me Rosie Word 2007, Win 7 32bit, , I get what you describe and show in the screen shot. and also reference regarding type library.  Haven't got time to do extensive search of registry just at the moment.

 

Posts 4357
LogosEmployee
Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 25 2010 7:44 PM | Locked

Rosie Perera:

So I'm stumped. I think we need Logos to provide a debug version of the DLL with diagnostic logging output to figure out what's going on and why it isn't working. Is the event that triggers the DLL being called even getting picked up? If the DLL is being called, where is it failing silently?

Done; see http://community.logos.com/forums/p/22045/165500.aspx#165500.

Posts 136
David A. Peterson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 30 2010 9:10 AM | Locked

BillS:
If you meant macro permissions,

That is what I meant, it must be my heavy accent, lol

 

DP

<><

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 30 2010 12:53 PM | Locked

David A. Peterson:

BillS:
If you meant macro permissions,

That is what I meant, it must be my heavy accent, lol

 

DP

<><

 

Big Smile

 

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 46
Scott Dietrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 8:31 AM | Locked

This is something new to me... can someone give me a quick rundown on what smart tags are, how to set them up, and how you use them? I take it most folks use them linked to MS Office somehow. How can they benefit me?

Thanks

 

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 9:31 AM | Locked

BillS:
2/3 convinced it some setting in Office or system security that I haven't yet found,

/Warning - humor follows /

As time goes by....Sleep

/end humor/

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 15667
Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 9:41 AM | Locked

Scott Dietrick:

This is something new to me... can someone give me a quick rundown on what smart tags are, how to set them up, and how you use them? I take it most folks use them linked to MS Office somehow. How can they benefit me?

 

Scott, SmartTags are an Office feature that allow you to install some "smart" behavior for certain types of things that you type into an Office application (dates, times, addresses, phone numbers, etc.). Logos has implemented a SmartTags module so that if you type in a Bible reference, Word will recognize and mark it as a SmartTag. As soon as it's recognized a little  icon will pop up which provides a menu of choices when you click on it. One of those choices will be to insert the actual Bible text for the Scripture reference. I haven't been able to get it working on my machine so I can't tell you more than that. But if you poke through this thread you'll find instructions for how you're supposed to be able to get it working. Sorry to make you wade through all of that, it isn't yet documented succintly on the wiki nor in the Help file, as it's still in beta testing for Logos 4.1. If you don't have the beta version you won't be able to try it out. You'll have to wait until 4.1 ships.

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 9:45 AM | Locked

Scott Dietrick:

This is something new to me... can someone give me a quick rundown on what smart tags are, how to set them up, and how you use them? I take it most folks use them linked to MS Office somehow. How can they benefit me?

Thanks

Hi Scott, they're a feature of MS-Office that will allow a Logos app (its Smart Tag) to pass verse info. If you have Office, you may already use Smart Tags (Actions in Office 2010) when you paste something & get the little popup menu that allows you to paste formatted from source, destination, or unformatted text.

Similarly, If Logos is open (L4; with L3, it'll open Libronix first) when you type a Scripture reference, you'll get a wavy line under it--similar to when MS-Word thinks you have a spelling or grammar error. Hovering will get you the popup that allows you to do one of several actions. You can replace the reference with the passage, invoke CBV, start the Passage Guide on that passage, open a Bible to that passage, etc.

For L4, Smart Tags for MS-Office are now in beta test & working for most users. I'm one that they aren't yet working for.

For  L3 & Office 2003 & 2007, Smart Tags work with Word and Power Point. For beta L4 & Office 2003 & 2007 users, Word works, but I don't remember seeing reports from  Power Point users for whom it's working. For beta L4 & Office 2010, Bradley reported that Power Point had an internal error that prevented it from working.

Smart Tags are an MS feature, so not available in other Office suites.

Hope this helps.

 

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 46
Scott Dietrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 10:26 AM | Locked

Ok..great... thanks much for the info. I am doing the beta so might play with the tags a little. I can see how useful they could be.

 

Posts 3006
BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 1:42 PM | Locked

Rosie Perera:
You and I are in the same boat on this,

Rosie, are you running Office 2003, 2007, or 2010?

Those I've noticed whose smart tags aren't working seem to be Office 2007... So I'm wondering if there's a trend, there...

So, beta testers, would you mind sounding off?

If your smart tag ISN'T working, which version of Office are you on -- 2003? 2007? or 2010?

If your smart tag IS working, which version of Office are you on -- 2003? 2007? or 2010?

The Grace & Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
Pastor Bill, Faith Presbyterian Church

W8.1 64bit, Office 2010
i7, 2.40GHz, 1Gb graphics, 8Gb RAM, 7200rpm 750Gb-32Gb hybrid disk
HTC One M8, Droid 4.4.2

Posts 10048
Forum MVP
Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 2:51 PM | Locked

 

BillS:
If your smart tag IS working, which version of Office are you on -- 2003? 2007? or 2010?

Bill

I am using 2007 and Smart Tags are working for me.

Graham

Posts 46
Scott Dietrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 4:26 PM | Locked

Works for me in Office 2007. I did have to go into Word options and turn Smart Tags ON.

 

Posts 53
Leigh Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 31 2010 6:45 PM | Locked

Smart Tags not working - using Office 2007, Vista 32 bit.  I've turned on the Logos Smart Tag options in Word.

Page 2 of 3 (41 items) < Previous 1 2 3 Next > | RSS