Oh man! Tozer on sell...gotta have it!!

I have not seen this sale. Where did you see it? is it from somewhere you can share? Keep in mind some emails are personal offers based upon what is in your collection and are not intended for sharing.

I cannot find this deal anywhere.  It's not on my home page, and I'm not sure how to check to show al the offers logos provides.  This offer is not on my homepage nor can I find it at logos.com.

Any ideas?

Everything is checked for me...even unchecked it and then checked it. No deal...alas, I must not fit the demographic.

FWIW, I don't see it either. Everything except "devotionals" is checked. I hit F5 twice and it never showed.

I can't afford it anyway, just saying that it did not show for me.

Jerry

Chuck P. said:

I am not understanding this at all....I owned my own software business for years and one of the things I always knew....You must treat all customers the same...this doesn't sound like good marketing procedures to me.....to discriminate between customers does not make sense at all....I would hate to walk into a retail store and see items on sale, but with sighs that read for customers who are only blond headed...

It's a bit less sinister than you think Chuck.  It's all about targeted marketing.  since I've purchased items in the past that lead naturally to Tozer being a purchase it's offered to me.  Others for some reason didn't match whatever criteria was in view.  IOW it's not really an issue of Logos trying to keep something from you, but to make sure they offered it to people who match the criteria.  Perhaps the secret sauce there needs some new ingredients.

As for not posting coupon codes in the forums, the policy against it is due to the longevity of posts.  Years after the coupon code expires - it's still visible in the forum and CS has to field questions about it.  Hence the Forum Guidelines.

Chuck P. said:

"not posting coupon" - I purposely did not display the coupon code...please
don't accuse me of that.

Sorry Chuck, I did not intend that to sound like an accusation.  It was an explanation not only for you, but for all the readers of these threads who are silently learning as they go. 

EDIT: and as they read they're wondering, "Why didn't he post the code?"

No offense intended, and certainly no accusation.  [:D]

Jack Caviness said:

I did not get the offer because Logos already knows that I spend too much money on Logos resources. It is their "We will save you from yourself program"

I suppose you're right Rosie.  But personally, as I have spent thousands, and I mean more than three, with Logos over the years, I'm not too happy with the process.  I suppose just posting this will block me out even more.  Anyway, I am grateful for the product aside from that.  I wonder if something I posted earlier has blacklisted me or what? 

Actually, I am subscribed to the logos newswire on my mailing lists.  I am also checked off on all the home page things that those that got the sale are.  I also tried mightily to find this sale.  I'm also, now that I think about it, closer to 4 grand as a logos platinum user plus.  But that is no reflection on you or logos.  This remains the premiere Bible Study tool I've ever seen and I am grateful for that.   I'm sure there's some reason they do what they do the way they do it.  Don't worry too much about it, I'm kind of soured on the whole thing.  Just kind of sad to me.  Have a great day and God bless.

Chuck P. said:

I am not understanding this at all....I owned my own software business for years and one of the things I always knew....You must treat all customers the same...this doesn't sound like good marketing procedures to me.....to discriminate between customers does not make sense at all....I would hate to walk into a retail store and see items on sale, but with sighs that read for customers who are only blond headed...

I understand the thought but this is a targeted campaign as Thomas explained.  Reality is a lot of large business have some sort of prefered customer or customer category scheme (Level A, Level B etc customers), or choose to make certain offers to certain groups of customers. In a smaller business this is less likely to happen if at all.

Rosie Perera said:

It's also worth checking with your sales rep.

If you would like to take advantage of this deal, I would call your sales rep.  They may even be able to beat the coupon price.  You know the answer if you don't call.

I also would be interested in the Tozer sale possibly. I found the Tozer collection on the site, but no special pricing. Where can I go to find the special pricing?

Michael March said:

Oh, and one other thing I forgot to mention, just so you know, I did click the link that Paul Davey posted above.  I got a listing for mac and ipod stuff, neither of which I have.

Yeah I clicked on the link that Paul Davey posted as well and I got the same thing as you . But that is ok.

Christopher Funkhouser said:

I also would be interested in the Tozer sale possibly. I found the Tozer collection on the site, but no special pricing. Where can I go to find the special pricing?

Christopher, and anyone else: Yes, it is worth calling or emailing a Sales Rep and asking what's the best price they can give you. I just did. Turns out it's less than the coupon price! In my experience the Sales Reps can quite often get you a lower price than even what's on "sale" right now. I don't understand why they do it this way. It seems to me it would be less expensive for them to have more people buy through the website and have less work for the Sales Reps, and thus have to keep fewer of them employed. But I guess they like developing this relationship between customers and Sales Reps, as it results in more sales over the long haul... I can attest to that! I'm about to put in another pretty large order via my Sales Rep. Jared has already been mentioned by others as being great. I use Jim-Ray Higginson and he's terrific too. Very quick response time. Email: jhigginson (at) logos (dot) com.

Michael March said:

I have spent thousands, and I mean more than three, with Logos over the years, I'm not too happy with the process.  I suppose just posting this will block me out even more.  Anyway, I am grateful for the product aside from that.  I wonder if something I posted earlier has blacklisted me or what? 

Heh, heh. Michael March, you have to do something REALLY bad to make that list. I can hazard a guess for 10 posters being blacklisted but you don't come to mind.. Joking aside, I think we all fall victim to the automation sometimes.

"Recommended Add On Products for Matthew C Jones
 
BDAG/HALOT Bundle  (got it)
Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary (got it)
Ariel Ministries Messianic Collection  (got it)
JPS Tanakh Commentary Collection  (got it)
Charles Simeon's Horae Homileticae Commentary (got it)

The 50% I don't have are offered at retail  (4 of them have been on sale this past year)

International Critical Commentary Series
Barth's Church Dogmatics  
Lange's Commentary on the Holy Scriptures
WallBuilders American Foundations Digital Library
Lenski's Commentary on the New Testament

So if there is a blacklist, my name is higher than yours. And a Macintosh computer must be tending to it.  [6] Every time I deal with a human being at Logos, I am extremely pleased. I have always been treated better than I deserve. Give the Logos PEOPLE a chance to serve you.

(fwiw: I've spent a lot of money with Logos too (Portfolio & then some.) I don't regret it. I know the humans at Logos do appreciate me.)

Thomas Black said:

It's a bit less sinister than you think Chuck.  It's all about targeted marketing.

Well, I agree with Chuck.  I find it offensive. 

I have spent in excess of three thousand dollars with Logos in the past 12 months alone, and I have been a customer since the very beginnng. I have history of being a loyal customer, and I have introduced many fellow pastors and laymen in my churches to Logos over the years.  So I feel free to express my honest feelings. 

It would cost very little to send the offers to everyone.  This is not the old snail mail advertising that is so expensive. This would make more sense if it cost 75 cents to a dollar to notify each customer.  That is not the way it is with email and the net. 

It is certainly Logos' right to run their company any way they please, but I have lost some respect for them over this.  I feel they have proven much less loyal to me than I have been to them.

The end result is that they are creating ill will among their customers.  That's real smart.

Thanks for putting this on Logos Speaks, Rosie - I was just getting ready to do it and saw you beat me to it again.  :-)