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Greg Hatteberg | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Aug 25 2010 8:40 PM

Okay, I have watched all the videos on making notes and most of them do not seem to correlate to the screens I have, like "right click and add a note". I don't seem to have that option. Any place I can go to see how to do it? Sorry.

 

 

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Michelle Knight | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 7:31 AM

Greg:  I'm not a super huge Logos expert, but I've been using Logos' note system on the Mac version for the last couple of weeks with absolutely no problem.  Here is a screen shot of the "right click" window that you referenced earlier.  I simply have a resource open (Hebrew bible, here) and have right clicked (or since I'm on a Mac, control-clicked) to open a menu.  In the lower right hand corner, you see the "Add a Note to Jonah 1" option.  I have simply labeled my notes Jonah 1; on your machine, it might very well say "Add a Note to Untitled Notes" or something like that.  I hope this helps...

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 7:50 AM

Greg,

Right Click is only a sidewise sort of Mac Term.

1. It has to be enabled in System Preferences

2 It can be activated by Ctrl Click.

3 On a track pad (with the right settings) it is usually a two finger click or with the new track pad it can be a right click on the bottom right corner.

It all depends how your 'Secondary Click' is set up.

I think that only 2 above is guaranteed to work out of the box.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 9:49 PM

Option: third party mouse or trackball with left, right, and wheel buttons also works (out of box).

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 10:01 PM

I'm totally new to this. If I add notes to Logos, where are they stored? I'm assuming there's a data file in the Application Support folder for this. I'd hate to have an installation go south or need to be reinstalled on a different machine and lose my notes. 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 10:16 PM

Michael Ballai:

I'm totally new to this. If I add notes to Logos, where are they stored? I'm assuming there's a data file in the Application Support folder for this. I'd hate to have an installation go south or need to be reinstalled on a different machine and lose my notes. 

Default Program Settings has Use Internet = Yes, so Notes are synced between computer and Logos servers (along with many other items) - can cross platforms between Mac and Windows.

Appears notes are stored in notes.db file on computer hard disk.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 10:44 PM

That is very reassuring if there's a backup out there. I know there's the Time Machine on the Mac too.

Can that db file be opened and/or exported to another file type. I realize that's way techie, but I used to do database work.

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 11:04 PM

Michael Ballai:

Can that db file be opened and/or exported to another file type. I realize that's way techie, but I used to do database work.

Firefox has SQLite Manager extension - can open and copy some stuff - Logos 4 has many SQLite database files.

CAUTION: changing data and/or values in Logos SQLite database files not recommended - very strange things can happen: CAUTION

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 2:37 AM

Michael Ballai:
Can that db file be opened and/or exported to another file type. I realize that's way techie, but I used to do database work.

Logos 4.1 will contain printing/export feature. This is currently in Beta testing in the Windows version. The L4 Mac version that ships in October will be 4.0, and will not have this feature. However, 4.1 should follow in a few weeks.

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bryan jay | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 4:29 AM

I have my own questions about notes, so I'll add them to this thread.

1.  I have tons of notes files from my former Bible software which was Bibleworks.  I want to put this information into Logos.  I don't mind copying and pasting and doing it manually (unless someone knows of a way to import those notes), but my question is... should I do this now while the program is still in beta?  Or should I wait for the final version before I put all that work into entering my notes?

2. In Bibleworks, the notes were automatically tied to the Bible chapter.  In looking at the way Logos is set up, this is not possible.  What I have in the notes is, for example, my own commentary on individual Bible chapters.  If I try to separate it all out verse by verse, it will take me forever.  Any suggestions on how to take a page of material written about John 1, for example, and make it available to myself whenever I search something in John 1?

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 8:26 AM

The export feature sounds perfect and certainly worth waiting for. If one were to use SQL Manager, it would be prudent to do it on a backup file.  Now if one could make an import feature....Big Smile

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Dewayne Davis | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 9:03 AM

bryan jay:
should I do this now while the program is still in beta?

Personally, I would wait. There is no point in risking doing it twice.

bryan jay:
Any suggestions on how to take a page of material written about John 1, for example, and make it available to myself whenever I search something in John 1?

My first though would be to select the entire chapter and attach the note to that entire selection. That way, when you search for anything in that chapter, that note will show up in your search results. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it seems plausible.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 9:09 AM

 

Dewayne Davis:
My first though would be to select the entire chapter and attach the note to that entire selection. That way, when you search for anything in that chapter, that note will show up in your search results. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it seems plausible.

This approach works on the Windows version.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Aug 27 2010 1:18 PM

bryan jay:
Any suggestions on how to take a page of material written about John 1, for example, and make it available to myself whenever I search something in John 1?

After I saw Dewayne's suggestion to select the entire chapter and attach a note, I attempted this in the Windows version where notes are a bit more polished. On the Right-Click menu, Reference appeared as John 1:1–51, so I attached a note to that reference, and the note appeared in my Note File as John 1:1–51.

I had never attempted this before. Thanks for the inspiration. I have now learned something new.

bryan jay:
should I do this now while the program is still in beta?  Or should I wait for the final version before I put all that work into entering my notes?

Personally, I would wait, and I live dangerously as a betaholic.

Finally, I know you have your note organized by chapter. To me, it seems much more useful to break those note files into smaller units. If I were you, I would break them into pericope groups. At present, the Notes feature is quite slow, even in the Windows version, especially with large notes.

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