Books by Kenneth E. Bailey

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Mike S. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 9:53 AM

Whole hearted YesYesYesYesYes

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Robert C. Kuefner Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 11:36 AM

I too concur!!!!Yes

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 12:33 PM

Yes, absolutely! +7 YesYesYesYesYesYesYes Especially the first two.

Others have suggested these before. In fact, some guy named Ted Hans recommended them over a year ago. Wink

I'm pretty convinced that posting suggestions for resources on these forums doesn't really have the impact that we think it does. Logos's own recommendation is that we send them in to suggest (at) logos (dot) com. I would say the best way would be to post here first, get lots of supportive feedback from other users, then send an email to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, including a link to the thread here for corroborating evidence that this would be a good resource to add.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 12:53 PM

Rosie Perera:
Others have suggested these before. In fact, some guy named Ted Hans recommended them over a year ago. Wink

I have been found out! The forum search really is not that good, at least that is my excuse Inspector Rosie ColumboSmile.

Ted

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 1:12 PM

Ted Hans:

Rosie Perera:
Others have suggested these before. In fact, some guy named Ted Hans recommended them over a year ago. Wink

I have been found out! The forum search really is not that good, at least that is my excuse Inspector Rosie ColumboSmile.

Ted

 

Well, it only stands to reason that after over a year of waiting to see any of these show up in pre-pub you might have forgotten that you'd ever requested them before.

Also using Google to search the forums is far more effective. See http://wiki.logos.com/Using_the_Forum#Searching_for_posts (after the part where it explains the forum search function, it goes into how to use Google for better results).

And no worries about the duplicate post. If they're not listening to this forum when we post once, posting a second time isn't going to hurt, but it probably won't make any difference either. Send it to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, and see if it has a better reception. I'm sure they get flooded with requests there (and here) and simply haven't got the staffing to handle them all and prioritize the ones we really want. And I'm sure there are other criteria that factor into it as well, such as publisher relationships. But I sure do hope they'll get around to offering these soon!

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 1:34 PM

Rosie Perera:
Also using Google to search the forums is far more effective. See http://wiki.logos.com/Using_the_Forum#Searching_for_posts (after the part where it explains the forum search function, it goes into how to use Google for better results).

Thanks for this info, just what I needYes.

Ted

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 2:25 PM

Rosie Perera:
I'm pretty convinced that posting suggestions for resources on these forums doesn't really have the impact that we think it does. Logos's own recommendation is that we send them in to suggest (at) logos (dot) com. I would say the best way would be to post here first, get lots of supportive feedback from other users, then send an email to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, including a link to the thread here for corroborating evidence that this would be a good resource to add.

Yes good approach.   What I'd love to see is a user voice set up solely for the purpose of  resources ideas.

 

Edit Note: Kind of makes you wonder though what the purpose of suggestions group is if Logos is admitting they don't use it as a goto for our suggestions.  Is it here just as a kind of group therapy room where we can feel as though someone's heard our pleas.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 2:39 PM

Andrew McKenzie:
Edit Note: Kind of makes you wonder though what the purpose of suggestions group is if Logos is admitting they don't use it as a goto for our suggestions.  Is it here just as a kind of group therapy room where we can feel as though someone's heard our pleas.

I can't find an initial "Welcome -- this is the purpose of this forum" kind of post on the Suggestions forum. Not that it isn't there, but it might not be on the first page or two of posts as it might have been added to more recently than that. So I don't know what their original vision for it was, or whether it has morphed since then. All I know is that I can't recall ever seeing a Logos employee chime in on any of the threads here, and yet it is one of the most popular forums, with over 11,000 posts. Maybe it is just to make us feel better. Or maybe it was initially conceived as a way for users to make suggestions to other users about how to use Logos better.

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Bill Nienhuis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 3:42 PM

Rosie Perera:
If they're not listening to this forum when we post once, posting a second time isn't going to hurt, but it probably won't make any difference either. Send it to suggest (at) logos (dot) com, and see if it has a better reception. I'm sure they get flooded with requests there (and here) and simply haven't got the staffing to handle them all and prioritize the ones we really want. And I'm sure there are other criteria that factor into it as well, such as publisher relationships. But I sure do hope they'll get around to offering these soon!

We're listening! Smile

I'm the guy who gets all the books for Logos Bible Software. I talk to all the publishers and negotiate all of the licensing for every in-copyright book that is included in the software. I've been doing this job since 1997, so I know all the publishers personally. I lurk on these forums nearly every day, and I see all of the book requests. My assistant receives all of the suggest (at) logos (dot) com emails and logs them into spreadsheets by publisher. I see each one of these too. In almost every case, a book suggested in this forum is duplicated by a suggestion made by email. So, nothing is being missed.

When I visit with publishers, they see the spreadsheet data of user book request we receive. So, rest assured, every request is made known to them.

It is most convenient for me if people send requests to the suggest email box. When you send an email there, you'll get a nice polite auto-reply thanking you for your submission. I know that we are all trained to think that an auto-reply means no one actually reads the email. As I've stated, this is not the case. We see them, we record them, and (most importantly) the publisher sees them.

Keep letting me know what you want! I can't promise we'll get your favorite book quickly, but I think our track record shows that eventually it will show up on pre-pub.

THANKS!

-- Bill Nienhuis 

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 3:47 PM

Thanks, Bill! That is a wonderful reassurance!

Everyone else: I've added this post to the Logos Speaks page on the wiki. So we can direct people here easily again if the question comes up.

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Disciple of Christ (doc) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 9 2010 4:02 PM

Bill Nienhuis:
I've been doing this job since 1997

I remember you chiming in on the suggestion newsgroups at times over the years.  Appreciate you simply can't respond to our requests here... we'd much rather you be out with showing that spreadsheet to publishers. 

Bill Nienhuis:
When I visit with publishers, they see the spreadsheet data of user book request we receive. So, rest assured, every request is made known to them.

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Gordon Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 14 2012 11:45 AM

Hi Bill, It has been more than two years since your helpful post on this thread. Can you tell us if there is any news on whether Kenneth Bailey's books will be available individually or as a Bailey collection? Thanks.

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Mikko Paavola | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 15 2012 8:12 AM

Yes

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Bruce Roth | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 15 2012 5:24 PM

I wonder if there is something up with IVP.  They are one of my favorites and a long term publisher of choice, but I don't seem to see much of their more recent books being made available. 

There is the final volumes in the OT Bible Dictionary series and probably many other series and individual books that don't seem to be in Logos.

I was just out on their site and see they now have a mobile app:

http://www.ivpress.com/apps/pocket-reference/index.php

 

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David C. Rowe | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 15 2013 8:35 AM

Now can we have these all together in "The Kenneth Bailey Collection?"

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 15 2013 9:32 AM

Yes I recall seeing this suggestion in some other thread, where the poster observed that a few of Bailey's books are bundled in some collection.

FWIW, I have many of his books in hard copy, and would really love to go digital with Logos versions.

I find that Kenneth Bailey's perspectives are always interesting, although a very small fraction of his findings may be hotly disputed.

 

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Lee | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 27 2013 8:31 AM

Some titles are now available separately.

Click on this link: https://www.logos.com/products/search?Author=Bailey%2C%20Kenneth%20E.

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