Anyone running L4 on a thinkpad x201?

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Michael March | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 28 2010 3:14 PM

I ordered an x201 because I wanted the smaller screen that I used to love on my Dell m1210. Then I panicked when I saw the system requirements include dedicated graphic cards and cancelled the order, determined to buy a t410s. The x201 shipped before it could cancel and will be arriving Thursday.

My dilemma is I really want the smaller footprint, but I'm not sure it will run well with the program. 

The x201 is an i7 with 6gig of ram and of course, integrated graphics. I guess what I'm worried about is the directx10 requirement. I would love to try it out because I like the form factor best but don't want to pay a restocking fee which I surely will have to if I open the box. 

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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David Bailey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 5:18 PM

Hello Michael,

Is it the notebook or tablet version?  Could you provide the exact specs?  Is the storage device an SSD or disk drive? If you have 6 GB of RAM, I must conclude it is the tablet PC version, and therefore it uses a low-voltage/power i7-620LM processor (at 2.00 or 2.13 GHz).  The cpu should handle Logos 4 OK. However, I'm not sure about the performance of Intel's integrated HD graphics.  Lenovo's website does not specify what integrated GPU chipset it is using. It should support DX9 in hardware. Pending the rest of the specs on your X201 tablet, my initial gut feeling is that Logos 4 will run OK, but a bit sluggish.

If your budget allows, I'd go with a Thinkpad T-series, such as T410 or T510.

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John Fugh, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 6:07 PM

I have the x200t Lenovo and it works great with Logos.  Here are my specs:

4GB Ram

500GB HD

Windows 7 64 Bit

Core2 Duo L9400 1.87GHz

 

Blessings-

 

John

 

 

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Michael March | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 6:30 PM

It is not a tablet, but the laptop version.

It is cleared for DX10.

John, do you have integrated graphics"

 

Here are the specs:

Processor Intel Core i7-620M Processor (2.66GHz, 4MB L3, 1066MHz FSB)
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64
Operating system language Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 US English
Display type 12.1" WXGA LED Panel, 2x2 UltraConnect II antenna; with Camera and Wireless Broadband Upgradeable
Total memory8 6 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
Keyboard Keyboard US English
Pointing Device TrackPoint with Fingerprint Reader and Touchpad
Hard Drive 500 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm

 

 

 



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David Bailey | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 6:38 PM

Logos 4 should work fine, based on the specs.

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Trey Selman | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 6:59 PM

I have an X200t and it works fine. Yours is much more powerful so there should be no problem.

I looked at the x201t today and if I could,  I would get one.

response to your original post.

In it I mentioned the slow PRS drop down but this is not due to the computer. It is due to the design of the PRS which has plans to be optimized in the future.

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John Fugh, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 7:00 PM

Michael March:
John, do you have integrated graphics"

 

Yes, my graphics are integrated.

 

J

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Nathan Madison | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 28 2010 7:09 PM

Ok this is just to offer a liitle hope I'm running logos 4 platinum on and old table pc 1.5 ghz pentium with 2 gig ram, intergrated video with shared 64mg, running windows 7. The only wait time i suufered thourgh was the loading of the home page when i first opened the software. So be encourged if i can run it on an resurrected tablet pc any of the systems you may purchase today should run fine.

Nathan Madison

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Michael March | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:24 PM

Thank you for the hope Nathan.  I just got an email back from logos support and they assure me the machine will have no problems. Smile   More when it gets here...

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Bob Schaefer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 4 2010 9:53 AM

I offered my encouragement about the X201 in another thread, but I'm posting here as well in case anyone searching the forums regarding this notebook happens to land in this thread.

Here's the bottom line: The ThinkPad X201 is an amazing piece of kit, and it runs Logos 4 beautifully.

There's a reason why the X201 was named an editor's choice by Laptop Magazine and Computer Shopper. The power, portability, and quality of this computer are outstanding, and the 8-12 hours of battery life (with WiFi enabled!) really is a game-changer. The keyboard is a joy to use (it's a ThinkPad, after all). If you're a pastor, you may find it's hard to drag yourself away from your new "friend," and into the real world of ministry. Big Smile

The smaller screen won't suit all users of Logos, of course. But if your workflow allows a smaller number of open resources, or you have access to a secondary display, you won't regret your decision to purchase this computer to use with Logos 4.

I could go on, but you get the idea! I'm glad to respond to any specific questions anyone may have regarding this model - just ask.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 4 2010 11:08 AM

Thanks for the glowing report.  I am torn between the X201 and the T410S.  It seems that the X201 is sufficient.  Can you tell me the specs on your machine?

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Bob Schaefer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 4 2010 12:07 PM

Mark Swaim:

Can you tell me the specs on your machine?

Sure, Mark - glad to help you make your decision. Here's what's in my X201:

  • Processor: Intel Core i7-620M Processor (2.66-3.33GHz, 4MB L3, 1066MHz FSB)
  • Operating system: Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64
  • Display type: 12.1" WXGA LED Panel, 3x3 UltraConnect II antenna; Wireless Broadband Upgradeable
  • Total memory: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
  • Keyboard: Keyboard US English
  • Pointing Device: TrackPoint with Touchpad
  • Hard Drive: 320 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm
  • System expansion slots: 5-1 Media Card Reader and Modem
  • Battery: ThinkPad X200 Series 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
  • Bluetooth: None [I was trying to save a little money, and already had a small USB Bluetooth adaptor]
  • Integrated WiFi wireless LAN adapters: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000
  • Integrated mobile broadband: Integrated Mobile Broadband – Upgradable

I notice that Lenovo's been having some nice sales on various builds of the X201 lately. I haven't seen a deal on the Core i7 model since I ordered mine, but my understanding is that the Core i5 series is very solid, and that most users won't notice a difference. Considering Logos 4 runs (slowly) on an old Pentium M, and runs reasonably well on various Core 2 Duos, I wouldn't let the i5/i7 difference hold me back from buying an X201, if you hit a good sale.

I also sprung for the three-year extended warranty with coverage for accidental damage. True, the ThinkPad keyboard has drains that allow you to spill a glass of water on it without killing your computer (watch it on YouTube!), but this is a good enough computer that I'd like guard my investmentagainst the various bumps, smacks, and whoopses that can kill a notebook before its day.

 

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 4 2010 12:54 PM

Great.  Thanks for the help.  I am probably going to wait until Christmas or January when there not only is sure to be a sale, but also a better price on the machine.  I was convinced that I would need the T410S but was amazed when I saw the possibilities in the X201

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Bob Schaefer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 5 2010 7:47 AM

Bob Schaefer:

The smaller screen won't suit all users of Logos, of course. But if your workflow allows a smaller number of open resources, or you have access to a secondary display, you won't regret your decision to purchase this computer to use with Logos 4.

I thought a visual aid might be helpful. Here's how my main lectionary study layout is arranged. It's tight, but workable:

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Michael March | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 5 2010 10:01 AM

I have to chime in that in the few days I've had it, I love logos 4 on the x201.  Go anywhere, and plenty enough real estate for me, though I usually operate 3 or 4 open windows at a time.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 16 2010 3:29 PM

Bob Schaefer:
Here's the bottom line: The ThinkPad X201 is an amazing piece of kit, and it runs Logos 4 beautifully.

I have the tablet version and I agree completely.  Even in tablet mode, I can enjoy L4

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Ward Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 16 2010 4:46 PM

I recently got an X201 (i7 w/SSD) at work; a powerful tablet with good weight balance, doesn't get too hot to hold when on battery power, and the "rubbery" feel to it makes it easier to hold onto when in tablet mode.  I'm sure it would run Logos well.  That said, I got the model that doesn't have touch (just pen), and I think that was perhaps a big mistake--OneNote is much easier to use with pen AND touch...it is smart about which input method is being used and pretty seamless.  The pen is too sensitive to me...I print rather than write, and I leave lots of ink trails in OneNote.  My HP tm2t (i5) doesn't exhibit that behavior.

As I've posted in other threads, I'd love to see Logos tweak their GUI a bit to make it easier for pen AND touch input, and I've love to see that as well integrated as MS did in their Office 2010 suite.  For example, dragging with a pen selects text while dragging with a finger browses through a document.  I've set pen flicks, but while it gets me by it is only acceptable because I'm a tablet fanatic--would love to have the kind of browsing experience of the iOS Logos app.

Vote for better tablet controls at:  http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/619605-focus-on-tablet-and-touchscreen-features?ref=title

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