Is there in logos 4 explanation about measurement?

Tes
Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I want to know what feet is in terms of Centimetres? In the book of Nehemiah I have read that the wall was as thick as 9 feet,but what does it mean in terms of Mtrs?

Blessings in Christ.

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  • Kevin Becker
    Kevin Becker Member Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭

    If you are dealing with Biblical measurements then the Biblical Things tool will have conversion information. However, for English measurements Google will be your easiest tool. Go to Google and type "convert 9 feet to meters" and you will find that 9 feet = 2.74 meters.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    If you are dealing with Biblical measurements then the Biblical Things tool will have conversion information.

    Thank you Kevin,I am satisfied by the answer from Google it helps me to understand,but in the Things tool I have typed 9 feet ,I could find nothing result ,how does it work?

    Blessings in Christ.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,292

    Tes

    I think the issue is that "feet" is not recognised as a Biblical measurement. Cubit - which is in many translations - is recognised by Biblical Things and gives conversion information.

    Where in Nehemiah did you find the reference to "9 feet"?

    Graham

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Tes

    I think the issue is that "feet" is not recognised as a Biblical measurement. Cubit - which is in many translations - is recognised by Biblical Things and gives conversion information.

    Where in Nehemiah did you find the reference to "9 feet"?

    Graham

    Sorry Graham,It was from commentary in 12:27-47

    Blessings in Christ.

  • RyanB
    RyanB Member Posts: 686 ✭✭✭

    This is why I'm such a big proponent of bringing back the weights and measures tool from L3. With a program as powerful as L4, we shouldn't have to go to Google.

     

    http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/956535-bring-back-the-weights-and-measures-tool-from-l3?ref=title

     

     

  • Charlene
    Charlene Member Posts: 548 ✭✭

    Ryan B. said:

    This is why I'm such a big proponent of bringing back the weights and measures tool from L3. With a program as powerful as L4, we shouldn't have to go to Google.

    I agree!

    Charlene

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Ryan B. said:

    This is why I'm such a big proponent of bringing back the weights and measures tool from L3. With a program as powerful as L4, we shouldn't have to go to Google.

     

    http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/956535-bring-back-the-weights-and-measures-tool-from-l3?ref=title

     

     

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    Blessings in Christ.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Ryan B. said:

    This is why I'm such a big proponent of bringing back the weights and measures tool from L3. With a program as powerful as L4, we shouldn't have to go to Google.

     

    http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/956535-bring-back-the-weights-and-measures-tool-from-l3?ref=title

     

     

    [y]  I wish I had more votes; but when one clears up I would certainly plan on voting for this one next in line.

     

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    Having the weights and measures tool back would be nice. In the mean time several of the available bible dictionaries have good articles on the topic. 

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭
  • EmileB
    EmileB Member Posts: 235 ✭✭

    Big bump.

    I know we can get some of this info from the Biblical Things tool, but the old Weights and Measures calculator was EXTREMELY useful. I utilized it constantly whenever I prepared a lesson. I recognize that I'm not a programmer, but it SEEMS like it should be a very straight forward and relatively simple thing to restore. It is basically an embedded calculator that really doesn't interface with anything else and isn't dependent upon anything else. It is just a real time saver in terms of researching or doing the calculations.

    Its funny how something that seems minor and wouldn't be missed by someone really can be  a big thing to others. We all have those things in Logos that we'd like or that we miss. But for me, even though it's a small thing, it really is what I miss most. And it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to restore.

    I've cast my votes for this in user voice. Anyone else interested?

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another gorgeous programming example from Libronix (may I add, the best software EVER written?). I just can't get enough of those Ezekiel reeds.


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    For those who have never experienced what known as 'the best software ever written' (some say just Bible software but that's a questionable limitation), the weights/measures also had the option for metric, not, or both. More interestingly, it would scan the resources you have open and then based on your choice, would  automatically look for any measures in the display that it could convert for you.

    I copied the various available measures. They're not formatted below, but the presentation even has the hebrew/greek of the measures, etc.  Try the euros to drachmas conversion ... it's not a pretty picture today.

    Weights and Measures
    This is a list of all supported units, as well as the name of the unit in its original language.


    Weight
    gerahs gērah, gerah
    bekas beqa, bekah, beqaʿ
    pims pim, peh, pîm
    shekels sheqel, šeqel, šeqel
    minas maneh, maneh
    talents (Israel) talanton, talanton, talantiaios, talantiaios, kikkar, kikar
    heavy talents (Babylon) kikkar, kikar
    grams
    kilograms
    pounds (English)
    pounds (Roman) litra, libra, litra
    ounces

    Length
    inches
    feet
    yards
    furlongs (modern)
    miles
    centimeters
    meters
    kilometers
    fingers etsba, esba, ʾeṣəbaʿ
    palms kaph, tepah, paḥ, kap
    spans zereth, zeret, zeret
    cubits (OT) ammah, ʾamah
    reeds qaneh, qaneh, kalamos, kalamos
    reeds (Ezekiel) qaneh, qaneh
    cubits (Roman) pechus, pechys, pēchys
    cubits (Ezekiel/Palestinian) pechus, pēchys
    fathoms orguia, orguia
    stades (Roman) stadion, stadia, stadioi, stadion
    miles (Roman) milion, milion
    Sabbath day's journey
    day's journey
    gomed (short cubit) gomed, gomed

    Liquid Volume
    logs log, log
    Baths (Wilderness) bath, bat, amphora
    Baths (Jerusalem) bath, bat
    Baths (Sepphoris) batos, batos
    fluid ounces
    gills
    pints
    quarts
    gallons
    milliliters
    liters
    hins hiyn, hîn
    metretes metretes, metretae, metrētēs
    cabs qab, kab, qab

    Dry Volume
    pints
    quarts
    pecks
    bushels
    choinikes choinix, choenix, choenixes, choinix
    medimnoi
    koroi (Greek) koros, koros
    liters
    ephahs eyphah, ephah, ʾêpah
    cors (500 BC) kor, kor
    homers (OT) chomer, imeru, ḥomer
    letek lethek, lētek
    omers omer, ʿomer
    seahs sehaw, səʾah
    satons saton, saton
    modii modios, modius, modios
    sextarii xestes, xestēs

    Money
    silver talents talanton, talanton, talantiaios, talantiaios
    gold talents talanton, talanton, talantiaios, talantiaios
    silver mina mina, mna
    gold mina mina, mna
    silver shekels sheqel, šeqel, šeqel
    gold shekels sheqel, šeqel, šeqel
    silver bekas beqa, beqaʿ
    gold bekas beqa, beqaʿ
    silver gerahs gērah, gerah
    gold gerahs gērah, gerah
    US Dollars
    euros
    dollars (Canadian)
    dollars (Australia)
    rand (South Africa)
    pounds (United Kingdom)
    silver daric daric, darkmown, darəkəmownîm
    gold daric daric, darkmown, darəkəmownîm
    mina (Greek) mina, mna, mnan
    silver tetradrachma tetradrachma, tetradrachmon, argyrion, stater, statēr
    didrachma didrachma, didrachmon, didrachmon
    drachma drachm, drachma, drachmon, drachmē
    gold aureus
    assarius assarion, assaria, assarius, assarion
    quadrans (pennies) kodrantes, kondrantes, kodrantēs
    copper lepta lepton, lepta, leptos
    denarii dēnarion, denarius

     

     

     

     

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Blessings in Christ.

  • EmileB
    EmileB Member Posts: 235 ✭✭

    Thanks for the link Tom. I hadn't seen that. Now that i have, I'm even more disappointed.


    I have to disagree with Bob on this one. His argument (that it gave an illusion of accuracy) may be true to a certain extent. However, his alternatives are even more nebulous and prone to inaccuracy, IMO. And the statement that commentaries, etc. provide modern day equivalents hasn't been my experience. Even when they ARE provided... well, somehow "converting" the biblical amount to the British pound or shilling from the late 1800s ain't exactly helpful, you know?

    It just isn't accurate to say FROM A USER'S perspective, that the tool wasn't helpful. Maybe those of us who actually used it on a regular basis can decide what was useful to US or not? No one said that it was perfect. But for someone doing research for teaching or preaching purposes, it was a whole lot more accurate than what Bob is suggesting we now use... and more importantly, took a WHOLE lot less time. There is an advantage to having all of this in one place. Now, I have to spend tons of time trying to work out a ballpark equivalent for today. And it isn't going to have any higher level of accuracy than the old tool provided.

    And I still don't get why it has to be such a big deal. It is a static calculator. It CAN'T be that hard to put it back in. If they do, I guarantee, a lot of users will be happy about having it back, and will make heavy use of it.

    And Bob can still enjoy the luxury of spending however much time he wants searching for a needle in a haystack.

  • Tes
    Tes Member Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭

    Blessings in Christ.