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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 2:57 PM

George Somsel:

Ken Avery:
Not to be ungrateful for all of the wonderful Greek texts; I was really hoping to read some of the most important English Bible Translations ever written in English, in English. The Bishops Bible is not that interesting considering it's sorted past

What do you mean?  Did it get mixed with the AV?

"Sordid" past, George. & Ken. See how we lose the beautiful English by dumbing down our newest translations?

I just can't wait to see the vocabulary list for NIV2038! Indifferent    All 18 words of it.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 3:28 PM

Matthew C Jones:

George Somsel:

Ken Avery:
Not to be ungrateful for all of the wonderful Greek texts; I was really hoping to read some of the most important English Bible Translations ever written in English, in English. The Bishops Bible is not that interesting considering it's sorted past

What do you mean?  Did it get mixed with the AV?

 

"Sordid" past, George. & Ken. See how we lose the beautiful English by dumbing down our newest translations?

I understood precisely.  My point was that one should not use a word if he doesn't understand it.

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Ken Avery | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 3:55 PM

Please forgive my ignorance, I am merely a plowboy.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 4:37 PM

Ken Avery:

Please forgive my ignorance, I am merely a plowboy.

The problem is not ignorance.  The problem is pretending to know when you do not.  If you wish to use a word, be sure you know its meaning or learn its meaning before using it.  Otherwise, use a word you do know.

BTW:  Is that picture from Petra?

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 4:52 PM

George Somsel:
The problem is not ignorance.  The problem is pretending to know when you do not.

Sometimes the problem is tact.

Ken, you're not only forgiven, you're understood and appreciated.

George, Ken used the word correctly. He only misspelled it."Sorted" and "sordid" are a homophones, after all - at least nearly so in American English.

But let's not get in a fight over words, what they mean, or how to spell (pronounce?) them. We know what Ken meant.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 5:27 PM

Matthew C Jones:
Puritanical textual critic

Okay - enough about Puritans.  They kicked my great-great-great-great-great ...grandmother out of the Boston colony - she was banned until the late 1940's but at least she was finally allowed back... she somehow never showed up. (Think Anne Marbury Hutchinson ... and I can claim Rebecca Norse/Nurse of Salem fame as well).

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 5:47 PM

Richard DeRuiter:

George, Ken used the word correctly. He only misspelled it."Sorted" and "sordid" are a homophones, after all - at least nearly so in American English.

But let's not get in a fight over words, what they mean, or how to spell (pronounce?) them. We know what Ken meant.

Yes, we all know what Ken meant. I know what George meant, too. I understand and appreciate & wholeheartedly agree with everything Ken has expressed in this thread. I do not accept George's verdict that people "pretend" to know things. I was reading graduate level texts in the 6th grade. I had no peers to discuss these subjects with in English. Therefore, I had quite a few words in my vocabulary that I would mispronounce. This is quite common in a reading-centric education. Our plough-boy brother (Ken) apparently has a verbal-centric education evidenced by his correct usage and understandable misspelling. It is nothing to apologize for, and is definitely not "pretending!" .......If anything, it proves his point we can really benefit from having the rich language of the Geneva Bible.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 5:55 PM

Ken Avery:
The Bishops Bible is not that interesting considering it's sorted past

I don't know it's sordid past but THAT makes it sound interesting to me. Devil

But if we're going for historic value, I'd vote for the psalters:

1) Vesparian Psalter

2) Bede's Abbreviated Psalter

3) Eadwine's Canterbury Psalter

4) Paris Psalter

5) Richard Rolle of Hampole

6) West Midland Psalter

7) Geneva Psalter

8) Scottish Psalter

9) Tate-Brady

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Chris Ease | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 7:34 PM

Geneva bible would be cool I suppose.  I have a dead wood version.  The reformed church (today, for the most part) is using ESV and NASB and neither bible is based on TR.  I truly believe that the TR is of great use and I know of some KJV only people.   With that said, a Geneva bible would be great for those who value that bible as their primary source, a comparison source, or a historical source and I support the idea of it, but I wouldn't purchase it for me.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 8:18 PM

Chris:
I truly believe that the TR is of great use and I know of some KJV only people.   With that said, a Geneva bible would be great for those who value that bible as their primary source, a comparison source, or a historical source and I support the idea of it, but I wouldn't purchase it for me.

In addition to the eSword module, I've got it in audio version and leather bound study Bible,   Sometimes I carry it to my IFB KJVO church. Some strange glances have been thrown my way.  Hmm

I really enjoy the Geneva Bible.  But then I like reading Alexander Pope too.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 9:24 PM

George Somsel:

Matthew C Jones:

George Somsel:

Ken Avery:
Not to be ungrateful for all of the wonderful Greek texts; I was really hoping to read some of the most important English Bible Translations ever written in English, in English. The Bishops Bible is not that interesting considering it's sorted past

What do you mean?  Did it get mixed with the AV?

 

"Sordid" past, George. & Ken. See how we lose the beautiful English by dumbing down our newest translations?

I understood precisely.  My point was that one should not use a word if he doesn't understand it.

Good, I learned a new word here. I tried to make sense from the "sorted past" Smile The word "sordid" I have never noticed before. Thanks.

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Ken Avery | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 13 2009 10:58 PM

George Somsel:

Ken Avery:

Please forgive my ignorance, I am merely a plowboy.

 

The problem is not ignorance.  The problem is pretending to know when you do not.  If you wish to use a word, be sure you know its meaning or learn its meaning before using it.  Otherwise, use a word you do know.

BTW:  Is that picture from Petra?

George,

The fact that I used the wrong word in the proper context; that is, as Richard put it, a homophone of the correct word does not indicate lack of knowledge of the word, It simply means I used the wrong spelling of the word in the proper context. Making fun of people who have dyslexic tendencies is not very nice; though, in your case, I understand the need to divert attention away from the main theme and focus on the small and insignificant details of one's mistake,

My journey is much different than yours, I seek the truth; whereas, you appear to seek to be correct, In this particular case, you have succeeded, congratulations, you are absolutely correct about the proper use and spelling of the word sorted (to sort) verses sordid.

The picture is of Petra and inspired by Matthew 24:16, Revelation 12:6 and 14, Isaiah 33:13-16; 41:17-20; 65:8-16 and Micah 2:12 as explained by Dr Arnold Fructenbaum in his book "Footsteps of the Messiah", simple reading even a plowboy can understand: http://www.logos.com/products/details/3034

God bless you and keep you,
Ken

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James W Bennett | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2009 5:21 AM

Vincent,

IF Logos encodes the Geneva bible into the Libronix format, please do not forget the notes!

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2009 11:51 AM

James W Bennett:

Vincent,

IF Logos encodes the Geneva bible into the Libronix format, please do not forget the notes!

 

Oh yes, Please do include the notes.

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Ken Avery | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 14 2009 1:32 PM

Matthew C Jones:

James W Bennett:

Vincent,

IF Logos encodes the Geneva bible into the Libronix format, please do not forget the notes!

 

 

Oh yes, Please do include the notes.

 

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Christian Girl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 18 2012 10:27 PM

Yes Geneva Bible by itself and not in a package of 20 bibles (like is currently on community pricing) Yes

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 21 2012 4:24 PM

Hey everybody,

I ran across the Geneva Bible in one of those old Libronix collecions. It is Essentially  Wink  a very cheap collection in a boxed set and can be found all over the internet.......

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Tom | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 21 2012 7:10 PM

Super Tramp:

Hey everybody,

I ran across the Geneva Bible in one of those old Libronix collecions. It is Essentially  Wink  a very cheap collection in a boxed set and can be found all over the internet.......

IF you have the unlock codes (or what ever it is called for the libronix version)  with the E4 disk :)

I have it and I agree with the other posters, the notes would be nice, but I do not forsee that as being included in the collecion :( :(

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