ibid in footnotes

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010 12:36 PM

Is there a way to change the footnote settings to use "ibid" when appropriate instead of repeating the same resource?

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 21 2010 1:36 PM

That would be a neat trick. However, my experience is to just type the "Ibid" when appropriate so I usually end up typing the quote instead of pulling it from Logos.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 21 2010 3:31 PM

Jack:

Is there a way to change the footnote settings to use "ibid" when appropriate instead of repeating the same resource?

It would have to be a function of whatever software you're using to write your document in.  All Logos does is copy info to the clipboard.  What then if you insert a different reference between your footnote 1 and your 2.ibid?    1 remains 1, the new foot note changes to 2 and the third get's shifted to 3 and still says ibid?

That would be a function of the editing software (or the editor).

Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 21 2010 6:29 PM

Very often, I rearrange text in my Word documents, sometimes resulting in the reordering of footnotes. If Logos did paste the word ibid, the footnotes would be incorrect later.

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David Ames | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 5:19 AM

Jack:

Is there a way to change the footnote settings to use "ibid" when appropriate instead of repeating the same resource?

On my first project [many years ago] I got lost on the word 'ibid' [Now I know]

BUT if one copies just one reference and gets the reference of 'ibid' and did not notice it when doing the paste then one is then lost.

[will have to re find the original resource and update the reference - Whoops it is in someone Else's paper]

Please advise - Why use 'ibid'? 

[maybe using a shorter reference format that identifies the book used - I see where some of the reference formats take two lines of text (or more)]

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 6:08 AM

Ibid. (along with its cousin op. cit.) is becoming obsolete. Some of the major manuals of style (Turabian, MLA Handbook) discourage its use, because of this very problem of cutting and pasting leaving orphaned ibid. references in the footnotes.

Also, ibid. was originally used to save space, typesetting costs and/or typing time. But with computers and automated citations, those are no longer issues. It's hard for those of us of a certain age to break old habits, and it makes us look educated, but a lot of readers these days don't know these Latin abbreviations anymore.

I suggest you don't worry about using it. Unless it's required by a teacher or publication you're writing from.

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Oct 22 2010 8:35 AM

Well obviously looking educated wasn't my concern or I would have thought this through more before I posted and would have come to the conclusions that have been pointed out here. No one else sees the footnotes. They are for my use only. I just prefer to not have so much space taken up referring to the same resource. Thanks for all the posts.

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