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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 6 2009 10:10 PM

Bob Pritchett:

We're hoping to have a generic mobile web solution next, after which we'll evaluate more dedicated apps for specific platforms.

The iPhone has the advantage of being one device; our investigation of BlackBerry and Windows Mobile so far shows that there are lots of device-specific issues for development and testing. (Some with touch screens, some without, some with soft keyboards, some with physical, etc.)

We'll start with something "everybody" can use, even if with reduced functionality, then try to add platform specific helps and extensions, then see if we can afford the development investment for the next level.

Bob this sounds like an excellent solution. I will likely use my blackberry as a reading device and to run simple searches/reports; so this sounds like a perfect solution for the meantime. I think it was a reasonable and probably wise solution to launch onto iPhone first. I know of at least 3 brand new sales that it has generated in the first week in my small circle of influence (two scholars & one leaders)...and dozens of downloads of the app which will likely turn into sales. Brilliant

Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Brian Whalen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 10:48 PM

As a storm user that refuses to be an at&t customer, and therefore an iPhone or iTouch user, I say this would be fab.  Olive  tree has a Bible reader app for the storm, but it isnt nearly as complete of course.

Brian Whalen

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James Macleod | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Nov 18 2009 11:34 AM

I am both a Blackberry (for work) and an iPhone user. My vote would be to skip the Blackberry and focus on the iPhone. I would rather have a great iPhone app only than a bunch of mediocre mobile apps. I think the Blackberry UI would be cumbersome for an app like Logos. I think the Blackberry has really fallen behind the iPhone and the only reason that they have such a market share is that they are so entrenched in the workplace. Just my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.

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Neal Glass | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 20 2009 9:28 AM

I would greatly appreciate having the app on my Blackberry Storm.

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Steve Clevenger | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2009 5:44 PM

Yes Blackberry appYes

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Westie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Dec 27 2009 5:52 PM

Joe Miller:

Verizon Wireless is my carrier so no iPhone option for me.  I don't own a Blackberry at this time, but according to the Lord's provision it will be my next upgrade.  

 

I believe that verizon will be signing an agreement with apple regarding iphone, in june.  I would hold off until then.

M

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jHoon | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Apr 1 2010 4:51 PM

Even better would be a bible app for blackberry that worked regardless of data plan.

YouVersion has an insanely verstaile app for blackberry's and iphones but the only downside is it can only accessed through the web via data plan or wi-fi.

I have wi-fi but no data plan which is really inconvenient because i can't use it anywhere except places i have wireless access to, namely my house and libraries, which in that case it would be much more convenient to just use the computer.

If this app could run without any web acess it would be PERFECT! just a suggestion!

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Allen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 7:52 AM

or some kind of sprint product with logos. Blackberry would be awesome.

 

 

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Robert Volk | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 26 2010 8:07 AM

yeah blackberry most defiantly.

 

There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.

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Chris Bell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Aug 29 2010 7:53 PM

Long overdue! Logos for Blackberry! Seems Apple is getting all of the attention these days.

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Terry Dryden | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Nov 12 2010 5:50 AM

I would be very happy to be able to read my books, read and write to my notes and prayer lists on my BlackBerry.  I don't see an iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch in my future.  May the Lord provide a BlackBerry Logos app very soon.

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Pastor Kevin | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 8 2010 11:41 AM

I have perused the thread and find it frustrating that this conversation has been going on for a year and no response from LOGOS to affirm or deny a willingness to assist Blackberry users.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 8 2010 11:55 AM

On the contrary... kind of.  It may not be in this thread - since I haven't re read it but there are other threads which essentially state the following:

1.  http://library.logos.com and http://biblia.com both exist as alternatives for ALL phones/smartphones including Blackberry.

2.  Market trends indicate that Android is growing faster than Blackberry and therefore it has/is/was developed first. (http://www.logos.com/mobile/android ) 

3.  Blackberry is not ruled out as a potential development platform; but it takes time and money to build these things and if I understand the stated position so far, Logos will move to blackberry after Android is complete IF it still makes sense to do so.

4.  Logos has at least created a launcher for Biblia.com for Blackberry.  http://blog.logos.com/archives/2010/11/logos_bible_software_blackberry_launcher_for_bibliacom.html  Sure it's not a full application but it works on my BB8900 just fine.

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Ryan Robinson | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, May 25 2011 7:03 AM

I've been hoping for one for a while.  If I had access to all this material on my phone and my PlayBook tablet, I would probably be willing to spend a fair bit here.  As is, unable to really effectively take it to classes with me, it isn't nearly worth the cost to me.

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Adam Lambert | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Aug 6 2011 7:37 AM

I spoke with CEO Bob Pritchett and he explained to me in some detail the reasons why they are not doing a blackberry app. The first reason is blackberry's share of the market is on a steady down hill run and at this present time is extremely small where as iphone and android are the top 2 on the market. Secondly, for there to be a blackberry app they would actually have to amke it to fit 10 - 15 different types of platforms because of all the add ons that have been done to blackberry such as the joystick control or the wheel control. Both of them take different commands in order to make an app function. For those of you who are program inclined you will understand this, for teh rest the simple version is logos would have to do so amny different versions of the app that it is not cost effective. Now ontop of all of that the other issue is not enough programmers. Bob said they are in search of 5 programmers right now and if anyone knows of some they need to point them in logos' direction. To make an app requires 2 dedicated programmers and logos jsut does not have the man power right now but again even if it did with the shrinking market share of the blackberry it is very unlikely there will ever be a blackberry app unless blackberry does like androi and iphone and make one platform for all their phones combined which would probably bring it back into contension with iphone and android.

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Ryan Robinson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 8:06 AM

I'm not at all surprised.  I am a BlackBerry developer (amateur, not very frequently) and I follow BlackBerry pretty closely.  It's very trendy to hate on BlackBerry right now and those are two of the standard excuses from developers, even though they don't really make very much sense.  

I think the market share argument is honestly a terrible one.  Their market share is shrinking, yes, at least in the U.S., but their overall user base is still growing at a huge rate.  We're still talking about hundreds of millions of people.  I can totally understand saying that iPhone and Android get priority based on market share, but to completely ignore a huge user base is foolish in my opinion.

The other argument makes a bit more sense to me, but not a lot more.  It's still all the same operating system, except for the PlayBook which is the new operating system that will be on phones in another year or so.  That means that about 99% of the code is the same across all the phones.  The only things they need to change are stuff like screen resolutions.  Even stuff like buttons to touch or buttons to click on using a trackpad is pretty much if not entirely identical code I believe.  I don't think you can really use the 1% of the code that will need to be changed as an excuse not to do the rest.  If they wanted to do the rest, they would and they wouldn't think anything of updating screen resolutions.  And there are still way more Android form factors than there are BlackBerry form factors, so the comparison vs iPhone makes sense but not against Android.

Sorry if this came across as harsh, but especially for a company the size of Logos, it would not take them all that much to hire a couple programmers and pull in a nice profit from the huge BlackBerry user base.  I'm not even a Logos user - considered it before I found out that there's no shot of a BB app, but I'm not - so this doesn't really concern me.  I just wanted to clear up in defense of us BlackBerry users and developers why it is not nearly as terrible as the media makes it out to be.

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JENNIFER ROBINSON | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2011 7:00 PM

Thanks for the insight. I am disappointed with the lack of support for Blackberry users. 

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JENNIFER ROBINSON | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2011 7:03 PM

The biblia app for Blackberry functions poorly.

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Aug 11 2011 7:13 PM

JENNIFER ROBINSON:

The biblia app for Blackberry functions poorly.

Just to clarify... the biblia launcher for blackberry launches biblia.com in the browser.

If you're referring to poor biblia.com performance in the blackberry browser; what do you mean by functions poorly.  If there is a specific issue, they can fix it.  

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