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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:00 PM

For the most part, I have always ordered my books on CD ROM. What are the benefits of a download versus a CD ROM?

Also if you do make your purchases as downloads lets say for instance you need to do a full restore, do you have unlock all your orders manually, or does the system remember through your licenses that you have purchased these titles before and will just download them automatically?

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:08 PM

Donovan R. Palmer:

For the most part, I have always ordered my books on CD ROM. What are the benefits of a download versus a CD ROM?

Also if you do make your purchases as downloads lets say for instance you need to do a full restore, do you have unlock all your orders manually, or does the system remember through your licenses that you have purchased these titles before and will just download them automatically?

I order by download whenever possible. Advantages: 1) I get my books more quickly 2) I don't pay for shipping.

Libronix does remember which books I have licenses for. But it won't tell me. What I have done is make a mirror of my Libronix Resources (and some other LDLS stuff) directory on an external hard drive.

David Hooten has a backup/install routine which works well for transferring LDLS from one computer to another, or synchronizing a desktop with a laptop.

 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:11 PM

Donovan R. Palmer:

For the most part, I have always ordered my books on CD ROM. What are the benefits of a download versus a CD ROM?

Also if you do make your purchases as downloads lets say for instance you need to do a full restore, do you have unlock all your orders manually, or does the system remember through your licenses that you have purchased these titles before and will just download them automatically?

The advantage of download over CD is that you receive it faster and don't have to pay shipping.  Yes, the system will remember your licenses, but will NOT automatically download them if you need to do a restore.  I would therefore recommend a backup of your resources so that it doesn't become necessary to remember what you own and download them individually.  It is, of course, advisable to keep your backup updated to the latest version of any resources which have been changed; but, if you have them on your system and do an update, the update should inform you of newer versions which can be downloaded.  The trick is to have them on you HD to begin with even if it doesn't happen to be the most recent version.

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Nathaniel Porter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 1:59 PM

You also cannot sell your licenses to an unlockable download, even if it's also avaialable on CD-ROM, at least to my understanding.  Not a big deal for most, since we buy books to use them, but worth noting.

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Phil Gons (Faithlife) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 2:13 PM

NathanielPorter:

You also cannot sell your licenses to an unlockable download, even if it's also avaialable on CD-ROM, at least to my understanding.  Not a big deal for most, since we buy books to use them, but worth noting.

This used to be the case, but no longer is.

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Nathaniel Porter | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 2:22 PM

Beautiful!  Thanks again, Phil, Bob, and the gang!

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 3:13 PM

Donovan R. Palmer:

For the most part, I have always ordered my books on CD ROM. What are the benefits of a download versus a CD ROM?

Also if you do make your purchases as downloads lets say for instance you need to do a full restore, do you have unlock all your orders manually, or does the system remember through your licenses that you have purchased these titles before and will just download them automatically?

Donovan

Since I know that you use a Mac with Leopard, Time Machine will handle the restore rather well. In another post, I believe you said that you shared resources between Windows and Mac, with the Resource Folder on the Mac. Unless you fry your hard drive, and the backup drive, you should have no worry. You do have a separate backup drive, don't you?

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jul 6 2009 10:47 PM

JackCaviness:
Since I know that you use a Mac with Leopard, Time Machine will handle the restore rather well. In another post, I believe you said that you shared resources between Windows and Mac, with the Resource Folder on the Mac. Unless you fry your hard drive, and the backup drive, you should have no worry. You do have a separate backup drive, don't you?

Yes, I have a backup via Time Machine to a firewire drive... I also take a snapshot of my entire drive using SuperDuper! and save that to a seperate network drive on our home network.  So in effect, I have two types of backups in two different locations.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2009 4:03 AM

Donovan R. Palmer:

Yes, I have a backup via Time Machine to a firewire drive... I also take a snapshot of my entire drive using SuperDuper! and save that to a seperate network drive on our home network.  So in effect, I have two types of backups in two different locations.

Then, you should have no worries about losing resources. I also have my Logos User Files on the Mac, but I seem to remember that putting them there was a  more complex operation. 

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Donovan R. Palmer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2009 5:51 AM

JackCaviness:
Then, you should have no worries about losing resources. I also have my Logos User Files on the Mac, but I seem to remember that putting them there was a  more complex operation. 

The only ongoing minor inconvenience is that if you want to use the Logos Updator, it drops the files into the Windows resource folder, so you have to move them manually to the Mac folder. It's no big deal, but it will be nice when Logos for Mac has its own updator.

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2009 9:03 AM

Phil Gons:

NathanielPorter:

You also cannot sell your licenses to an unlockable download, even if it's also avaialable on CD-ROM, at least to my understanding.  Not a big deal for most, since we buy books to use them, but worth noting.

This used to be the case, but no longer is.

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The reason I always preferred having the CD shipped was precisely the clause in the old license agreement saying downloaded titles could not be transferred. I did see Bob's post in the forum saying that has changed. Does this transferability cover downloaded titles I acquired previous to the change in the license?  I hope to keep all of my Libronix library and use it . My main concern is how much of the library can I transfer to my son (or other preacher) when I pass away? Do I need to be keeping detailed records of each title & unlock code, etc.,. etc.? Or can Logos customer service handle a block transfer of all my library in one move? Will the new flat rate transfer fee be per license? It would be nice if it is per service call.

Another related question is: Since I did purchase most titles on CD-Rom, do I still have to have physical possession of the CD & install code to transfer it?  And if so, how do I protect that investment from loss through fire, breakage, misplacement? I know keeping licenses up to date & synchronized is the first step. Anything else I need to do?

 

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Aaron Kesson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jul 7 2009 9:39 AM

Richard DeRuiter:
I order by download whenever possible. Advantages: 1) I get my books more quickly 2) I don't pay for shipping.

Ditto for me.

I look at it as another bonus of a digital library.  I am not the most organized of people (just step into my office and you will see), so to receive more cd-rom's and DVD's is only to add to my "mess".  The idea of securing your library after a loss is as easy as a download.  Of course, it is also very wise to back up onto a CD just in case (and store it in a place where it can be easily found Wink).

Just my two cents.

 

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