EmileB: So... questions.... Is L4 for Mac really that bad, or are the problems isolated cases? Are they in actuality only picky problems with speed, or the result of too high expectations? Or am I really in for problems? How difficult is it going to be for me to get this thing up and working well (the one thread leaves one with the impression that L4 for Mac is practically unusable)? And what machine will run this program the best (including the other things I've indicated that I do?). Any perspectives would be much appreciated! Emile
So... questions.... Is L4 for Mac really that bad, or are the problems isolated cases? Are they in actuality only picky problems with speed, or the result of too high expectations? Or am I really in for problems? How difficult is it going to be for me to get this thing up and working well (the one thread leaves one with the impression that L4 for Mac is practically unusable)? And what machine will run this program the best (including the other things I've indicated that I do?).
Any perspectives would be much appreciated!
Emile
Hi Emile
Few points regarding your queries:
Hope that helps with some pointers. Know you will love your Mac.
- Patrick
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Mike and Patrick, thank you for your insights. I have found them quite helpful.
I suppose that those who post to a forum thread on problems/slow machines would naturally reflect only those who may be having problems, so it would understandably leave a skewed impression. It's a pity that there isn't a thread... "WOW! This thing works great! for me!"
I have actually returned a couple of times in my thinking to the iMac 21.5" with the i5 3.6 GHz processor, 8 GB of Ram and 2 TB 7200 rpm harddrive. I also think iWorks will handle all of my needs, plus Word (I need that for some freelance editing that I do to help fund our real work). (BTW - thanks for the link to the benchmark scores... I found that very helpful as I had considered the mini... but performance seems too low in comparison). The iMac I've described, software included, with One-to-One and Apple Extended Care, comes in at a bit over $2500. The next fastest option down on the benchmark list would be the Mackbook Pro 15" with i7 2.8 GHz processor, 500 GB 5400 hard drive and 8 GB ram. But for that (with software and extended service), we're looking at more than $3500... a $1000 more than the iMac, with a lower benchmark score, less storage capacity, etc. I confess that I really don't know how much of a practical difference a benchmark score of 6704 (the iMac) would be from a score of 5958 (the Macbook Pro)... I assume its noticable? That's why I opted against a mini, as it looks like it has a benchmark score of 3650... which seems substantially different from that of the iMac.
You're right that I really don't need a laptop if I will be using the iPad when traveling. The "main" computer would be essentially staying put.
So, from your posts and what I've read on this thread elsewhere, it seems like L4Mac would run well on the iMac 21.5" that I have described, correct? Perhaps the iMac is overkill in terms of running L4 Mac? (Macbook Air looks great from a portability perspective... and from Kevin Purcell's helpful video, it looks like it would work okay, so I'm considering it... but it's benchmark score is only 3003... half of the iMac). I just don't know how much power/speed is really necessary to run L4M smoothly.
My concerns are simply in how to get the machine to where we are going. Shipping really isn't an option. I'm fairly confident it would never arrive. So I need to bring it with me I'll be traveling by boat, plane and train. The boat and plane will not pose any difficulties. The plane is a close shave. I wouldn't be thrilled about the idea of checking my iMac into the cargo hold (I also don't want to use one of my two suitcases to carry the computer... I have to bring everything I'll need on the field... this is a permanent move). However, the iMac 21.5" falls within the size parameters for a carry-on (barely)... so i could keep it with me. I'd be a bit nervous for that 2.5-hour flight, but I would think I could keep it safe.
Thanks again for everyone's feedback. If there are further thoughts/suggestions, I'm all ears!
Best wishes,
EmileB:So, from your posts and what I've read on this thread elsewhere, it seems like L4Mac would run well on the iMac 21.5" that I have described, correct? Perhaps the iMac is overkill in terms of running L4 Mac? (Macbook Air looks great from a portability perspective... and from Kevin Purcell's helpful video, it looks like it would work okay, so I'm considering it... but it's benchmark score is only 3003... half of the iMac). I just don't know how much power/speed is really necessary to run L4M smoothly.
"Well" depends on what want Logos 4 Mac to do (and how quick of a response for various items) - 21.5" iMac should be usable.
EmileB:However, the iMac 21.5" falls within the size parameters for a carry-on (barely)...
Suggest verifying with airline - looking at carry-on sizes => http://www.luggageonline.com/about_airlines.cfm many airlines would not allow 21.5" iMac in cabin due to width (seem to remember some international flights having smaller carry-on sizes). Laptop would be easier to transport.
For cross country move, did pack lots of light stuff inside iMac box (filled box) - no damage after 1,800 miles (tightly packed other stuff around box).
EmileB: Thanks again for everyone's feedback. If there are further thoughts/suggestions, I'm all ears!
Apple has over 300 retail stores worldwide (in 10 countries) => http://www.apple.com/retail/storelist/ (perhaps purchase or pickup at an Apple Store near field location)
Also wonder about visitor(s) to field bringing a Mac with them.
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EmileB: So, from your posts and what I've read on this thread elsewhere, it seems like L4Mac would run well on the iMac 21.5" that I have described, correct? Perhaps the iMac is overkill in terms of running L4 Mac?
So, from your posts and what I've read on this thread elsewhere, it seems like L4Mac would run well on the iMac 21.5" that I have described, correct? Perhaps the iMac is overkill in terms of running L4 Mac?
"You can never have too much RAM" & you can never have a too fast machine. Get as much horsepower as your budget and carrying (of box) can handle.
EmileB: (Macbook Air looks great from a portability perspective... and from Kevin Purcell's helpful video, it looks like it would work okay, so I'm considering it... but it's benchmark score is only 3003... half of the iMac). I just don't know how much power/speed is really necessary to run L4M smoothly.
(Macbook Air looks great from a portability perspective... and from Kevin Purcell's helpful video, it looks like it would work okay, so I'm considering it... but it's benchmark score is only 3003... half of the iMac). I just don't know how much power/speed is really necessary to run L4M smoothly.
I wouldn't get an Air, if you want portability then get a MacBook Pro. But you just confirmed that you don't need to travel around with your machine.
EmileB: My concerns are simply in how to get the machine to where we are going.
My concerns are simply in how to get the machine to where we are going.
Only you can answer that — wherever it is you are going! Get the exact dimensions of the iMac 21.5" box and go to the airline. Get something in writing from them that confirms you can carry it in the cabin. To stop any overzealous/officious people at the airline gate.
Let me begin by saying I didn't read all the posts on here.
If it hasn't been said yet I'll say it now. Wait until next year to by a new macbook pro. This is because Apple will be updating there laptops in the spring and you will end up with a lot more computer for the same price and possible even a little less. Also always upgrade the ram yourself by buying through a trusted company this will save you a lot of money and will not void your warranty.
Just my opinion
Hanson
EmileB:For the most part to this point, I primarily use "My Library" like I would have used my hard copy library... I pull a book off the shelf and read it.
An iPad has option for offline resource reading - needs network connection to download. Can login to Logos web site http://biblia.com/ to see resources available for iPad.
Currently, the iPad Logos application lacks offline search. In a bible, can type a reference and jump to a verse (easy to switch translations).
The iPad also has many other book reader applications with offline capability plus many free books: Apple's iBooks, Amazon's Kindle, Barnes & Noble Nook.
Currently Apple has discounted refurbished Wi-Fi iPad's => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad
Mathias L. Hanson: Let me begin by saying I didn't read all the posts on here. If it hasn't been said yet I'll say it now. Wait until next year to by a new macbook pro. This is because Apple will be updating there laptops in the spring and you will end up with a lot more computer for the same price and possible even a little less. Also always upgrade the ram yourself by buying through a trusted company this will save you a lot of money and will not void your warranty.
Welcome Mattias
Reading rumors about iPad 2 production starting up. Looking at buyer's guide => http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ noticing MacBook Air is only Mac model refresh since July. Looking forward to Mac refreshes after Intel formally announces Sandy Bridge processors on Jan 5, 2011 (dreaming of iMac with 3.4 GHz Quad Core i7) - not know which will ship first next year: Logos 4.2a stable (Mac and PC) or Apple Mac refreshes.
Concur with upgrading RAM (caveat - need to be careful with static electricity discharge).