Maps referenced by Louw Nida

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Wayne L Owens | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Jan 4 2011 11:08 AM

- some of the Louw Nida definitions reference a map of which I cannot find; can anyone assist?

example: 93.389 Ἀβιληνή, ῆς f: a territory around the city of Abila, northwest of Damascus and ruled over by Lysanias—‘Abilene’ (Lk 3:1), Map 2 E-1

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 4 2011 11:54 AM

Peace to you, Wayne!

If you open your Biblical Places from your tools menu, then type in Abilene and hit return, Biblical Places will take you there!

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 4 2011 11:57 AM

*smile*

Here is a screen shot!

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 4 2011 12:20 PM

Wayne L Owens:

- some of the Louw Nida definitions reference a map of which I cannot find; can anyone assist?

example: 93.389 Ἀβιληνή, ῆς f: a territory around the city of Abila, northwest of Damascus and ruled over by Lysanias—‘Abilene’ (Lk 3:1), Map 2 E-1

My apologies, Wayne!  *smile*

            Should have read your post more carefully.  I just searched and searched and searched Louw Nida, and can see your problem.  Alas, I couldn't find any maps at all.  Must be missing!

 

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 4 2011 12:47 PM

Wayne L Owens:

- some of the Louw Nida definitions reference a map of which I cannot find; can anyone assist?

example: 93.389 Ἀβιληνή, ῆς f: a territory around the city of Abila, northwest of Damascus and ruled over by Lysanias—‘Abilene’ (Lk 3:1), Map 2 E-1

I'd like to know this too.  Seem that (1) they should be a part of the resource and (2) the map references should link to them.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 2:33 AM

Todd Phillips:

Wayne L Owens:

- some of the Louw Nida definitions reference a map of which I cannot find; can anyone assist?

example: 93.389 Ἀβιληνή, ῆς f: a territory around the city of Abila, northwest of Damascus and ruled over by Lysanias—‘Abilene’ (Lk 3:1), Map 2 E-1

I'd like to know this too.  Seem that (1) they should be a part of the resource and (2) the map references should link to them.

True on both (1) and (2). Stumbled over this when I found that someone built an empty Reading List for Neapolis ( logosres:louwnida;ref=LouwNida.93.542;off=-93 ) which comes from Acts 16:11 and is supposed to be found on Map 4 D-2 in L-N.

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 5:00 AM

Just a wild guess ... Map 2 with coordinate E 1.

I found a Map in NETBIBLE (at the back ... Map 2 E-1) location quite close.

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 6:37 AM

I looked at the various resources from the same publisher, UBS, and found this:

Barclay Moon Newman, A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament. (Stuttgart, Germany: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft; United Bible Societies, 1993).

The Map 2 E-1 is the same for the same location Abilene. According to the above, Maps should be part of The Greek New Testament (UBS). However, I am unable to find any Maps behind any of the UBS text.

 

 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 7:15 AM

LimJK:

I looked at the various resources from the same publisher, UBS, and found this:

Barclay Moon Newman, A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament. (Stuttgart, Germany: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft; United Bible Societies, 1993).

(...)

The Map 2 E-1 is the same for the same location Abilene. According to the above, Maps should be part of The Greek New Testament (UBS). However, I am unable to find any Maps behind any of the UBS text.

But you dug up the right track to find it: my paper copy of NA27 (which includes a German edition of Barclay-Newman by R. Kassuehlke) makes roughly the same references, has maps in the front and back and there I found Abilene in the second map in sector E-2 as well as Neapolis in the fourth map in sector D-2. 

Nevertheless we should have these in Logos and linked in the respective resources (or, if there is a problem securing the rights to the maps, linked to another appropriate map with same sectors or a sector translation)

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LimJK | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 7:48 AM

NewbieMick:

my paper copy of NA27 (which includes a German edition of Barclay-Newman by R. Kassuehlke) makes roughly the same references, has maps in the front and back 

Yes I do not have paper copy, thanks for confirming, if some one has the UBS paper copy can confirm if maps are included.

... hope to see the maps included somewhere in our Library and hyperlink done some point down the road Smile

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 9:48 AM

LimJK:
if some one has the UBS paper copy can confirm if maps are included.

Confirmed in UBS3.

So, are these maps missing in both the mutilated base package Bibles and the more complete SESB versions with the apparatus?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 3:09 PM

fgh:

LimJK:
if some one has the UBS paper copy can confirm if maps are included.

Confirmed in UBS3.

So, are these maps missing in both the mutilated base package Bibles and the more complete SESB versions with the apparatus?

They are missing everywhere - the SESB even contains the Kassuehlke lexicon I referred to above, including reference to the maps, but they are nowhere.

 

Actually these are the same four maps that are on the internal pages of front and back cover of my very first "real" paper bible, Luther edition 1956/64.

Of course they don't match the functionality of an atlas, but in my opinion they are of better quality than the nine maps in http://www.logos.com/product/1205/nelsons-bible-map-collection (which Nelson took from http://www.logos.com/product/1208/nelsons-new-illustrated-bible-dictionary , but at least the product page tells us so). 

Since a number of resources purport to contain these maps, they should be available. I assume that when the various bibles and lexicons where produced, nobody cared to secure the licence or images to reproduce the maps - again: as they were part of the printed books, they should be available or the links redirected to another map resource.  

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