Maximizing search potential

Using Logos 4.2a Beta 5, searching Large Text in Entire Library for judgement NEAR believers found 16 results (compared to 5,635 results for All Text), which is better than 0 results for Title and Topic searches.

Keep Smiling [:)]

It takes a while to get the hang of how searching works. Without the quotes, there's an implied AND between all the search terms, as in Google searching. So Logos will look for all three of those words, and find you places where the three of them occur together in the same article . That could be a long stretch of text in some resources. The "article" divisions vary from resource to resource. Could be a section of a chapter, or a journal article, or a Bible pericope. But you'll get better results if you leave out the small words (such as "of") and use the proximity search operators (NEAR, BEFORE, WITHIN). So for example:

judgement NEAR believers finds 97 hits in my library

judgement WITHIN 2 words believers finds 13 hits

Another issue is that you're using an uncommon spelling of judgement. The most accepted way of spelling it in English across the English-speaking world (except in the UK in non-legal contexts) is judgment, not judgement. However there are plenty of authors who will use the latter spelling. I get over 321,000 hits for judgment and only 16,000 hits for judgement. If you want to be complete, you'd need to search for both spellings. You can do that using a "wildcard" character: judg*ment. The * matches zero or more occurrences of any letter. So this syntax will find both judgment and judgement.

judg*ment NEAR believers finds 3706 hits

judg*ment WITHIN 2 words believers finds 495 hits - this is probably the best option among the ones I've mentioned

If you sort your search results by Book (or Title if you're using the beta version) you'll be able to hone in on the most relevant results.

You can find more information on the search syntax and strategies for searching on the wiki (http://wiki.logos.com/Basic_Search and http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help) and in Mark Barnes's excellent video Logos Tutorial #4 - Searching.

John Fidel

Hi Bryan,

The best way to limit your search is to set up some collections for theological resources, bible dictionaries, apologetics etc. Once that is done you can limit your searches by collection.

I also recommend using the Cited By tool using 2 cor 5.10 as your reference. I found this article right away when searching my theological resources:

Believers Will Be Judged. In writing to Christians Paul says, “We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God … . Each of us shall give account of himself to God” (Rom. 14:10, 12). He also tells the Corinthians, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body whether good or bad” (2 Cor. 5:10; cf. Rom. 2:6–11; Rev. 20:12, 15). In addition, the picture of the final judgment in Matthew 25:31–46 includes Christ separating the sheep from the goats, and rewarding those who receive his blessing. Grudem's Systematic Theology.

There were also many direct articles in my bible dictionaries as well.

Even though you state you might as well do a reference search, that is probably one of the best ways to limit the hits on this topic either directly or using the cited by tool.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for input/suggestions on how to really tap into this incredibly large library that I now have with L4. I am having difficulty finding things topically.

There was a similar thread which you'll find helpful: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/28721.aspx

The four key 'secrets', are:

Use collections to narrow your search
Use the NEAR keyword, rather than AND or phrase-searching
Provide synonyms where appropriate
Make proper use of 'Match all forms'

The other thing to remember is that searches can be improved, so you might not get them right first time. That's OK. Let me walk through how I might do this search.

The obvious start is judgement NEAR believers. There's an obvious problem with the results: most of the early results are for Bibles.
Therefore create a collection that excludes Bibles (you'll use this often in searches) and re-run the search. The syntax for the collection is rating:>=0 ANDNOT (type:bible)
The next problem (in my library at least) is that I'm getting results like "…judges us when we die. But I believe…". That's because Match all Word Forms is one. Normally that's helpful, but in this case it's not, so turn it off and re-run the search.
Now you should have really relevant results (see the screenshot below). But to be sure we're not missing anything we need to synonyms and add back in word forms that we do want. Something like this: (judgement, judgment) NEAR (believers, believer)

Two more tips:

It doesn't necessarily matter if you return hundreds of thousands of results if you have a good query, and your results are Ranked or By Count. The best results should come to the top.
If you rate all your resources, you can create a collection of your favourite resources (using the syntax rating:>3) and just search in there.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217676#Comment_217676

Living and learning - appears using wildcards effectively turns off match all word forms:

(judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*) ANDNOT (type:bible)

Also, believer* finds some believer's along with believer and believers.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217792#Comment_217792

Wow! What a bunch of great answers you guys have given. Thanks so much for the help.

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217792#Comment_217792

(judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*) ANDNOT (type:bible)

The ANDNOT (type:bible) has no effect in a search string. You can only use the type field in the library and collection syntax.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217645#Comment_217645

Using Logos 4.2a Beta 5, searching Large Text in Entire Library for judgement NEAR believers

Hi all, I'm trying to work through all the great suggestions today and want to post here some further questions regarding your suggestions. Keep Smiling, you mention that you were searching "Large Text" in Entire Library. What did you mean by that? Is it possible to only search the "large text" in the resources?

In the search dialogs, if I click the All Text carrot, I get some options, pictured below...

The "untitled" options appear to be custom markups that I created while taking notes once.

I looked under all of these, but couldn't find "Large Text" anywhere. I did find the option "titles" when I clicked on the carrot next to "search fields", and I thought, "OK, I'll click titles and it will only search the titles in my resources," but when I looked at the results, it didn't return anything (searching: Judgement NEAR believers)

So then I tried to go up and modify the search and my drop down now looks like this.

Notice that the carrot next to "search fields is open, but I can't modify anything! I figured out that the missing options was due to the fact that I have a single resource (MacArthur's commentary on 1 Corinthians) in the search. But why won't it let me search this single resource for "titles"? And is "title" referring to title of book or title of a paragraph or what?

Confusing.

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220568#Comment_220568

I looked under all of these, but couldn't find "Large Text" anywhere.

That's a new feature still in beta testing, so it won't be available to you yet if you're not using the beta version, which I'm guessing you're not.

Notice that the carrot next to "search fields is open, but I can't modify anything! I figured out that the missing options was due to the fact that I have a single resource (MacArthur's commentary on 1 Corinthians) in the search.

That means this particular resource is not tagged with any "Titles" -- that is used for the titles of images and maps in resources. To see some examples, do a search for the in the Title field in your Entire Library.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220570#Comment_220570

To expand on Rosie's answer:

The search fields menu only shows fields that are available in the currently selected resources.
You can see which fields are available in individual resources by clicking on the (i) icon on a resource.
Contrary to expectation, the 'title' field is generally not used for actual titles in resources (for which largetext is more useful). The wiki says that the 'title' field is "The title of an object, usually an image or media element", as Rosie says.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220640#Comment_220640

Mark,

I'm appreciating your videos. Thanks for taking the time to make them.

I have a question about the "cited by" tool. I read the wiki and it doesn't seem to match up with the Mac version of the software. I am unable to click in the upper left corner of the "cited by" window in order to change the options. When I select a reference, it shows me hits for all my different collections and it is too much to manage. Is it possible to limit the "cited by" tool in the mac version in order to make it more usable?

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220647#Comment_220647

I don't have a Mac, so I don't know the answer to your question, sorry. But KS4J I am sure will be able to help you…

John Fidel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220647#Comment_220647

Bryan,

I am using L4 Mac and here is what I get when I click the resource panel at the upper it provides the same options as the L4 Win. Have tried restarting L4? Perhaps you will need to post logs if it is not working, but it is available in L4 Mac.

Here is a screen shot:

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/220758#Comment_220758

Here is a shot of what I get when I open the "cited by" tool. It doesn't look anything at all like yours, John.

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222206#Comment_222206

Here is a shot of what I get when I open the "cited by" tool. It doesn't look anything at all like yours, John.

Bryan

John's is shown with the panel menu dropped down. Click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of your Cited By tool and you'll see the menu.

EDIT: John also has Follow turned off, which explains why he doesn't have the orange asterisk icon. (On the dropdown menu you can select any Link Set or Follow; and if you select None instead it will turn this off completely.) John's Cited By tool also appears to be repositioned in a main tab instead of the Tool side bar, so that's why he has the larger panel menu icon instead of what would be a small dropdown arrow on yours if you turn Follow off. To do this you drag the Cited By tool by its tab into the main resource tab area and drop it where you want it, either filling the full tab area, or splitting it in half.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217844#Comment_217844

(judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*) ANDNOT (type:bible)

The ANDNOT (type:bible) has no effect in a search string. You can only use the type field in the library and collection syntax.

Bug ? - Logos 4.2a Beta 7 basic search of all text in entire library using wildcards does not include any bibles: judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*

Keep Smiling [:)]

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222232#Comment_222232

Bug ? - Logos 4.2a Beta 7 basic search of all text in entire library using wildcards does not include any bibles: judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*

Hi KS4J,

I have just tried a Bible search using the string "judgment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer" (so no wildcard) against "All Bibles" and don't find any hits.

So it doesn't look like a bug, just no matches!

Graham

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222225#Comment_222225

Here is a shot of what I get when I open the "cited by" tool. It doesn't look anything at all like yours, John.

Bryan

John's is shown with the panel menu dropped down. Click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of your Cited By tool and you'll see the menu.

EDIT: John also has Follow turned off, which explains why he doesn't have the orange asterisk icon. (On the dropdown menu you can select any Link Set or Follow; and if you select None instead it will turn this off completely.) John's Cited By tool also appears to be repositioned in a main tab instead of the Tool side bar, so that's why he has the larger panel menu icon instead of what would be a small dropdown arrow on yours if you turn Follow off. To do this you drag the Cited By tool by its tab into the main resource tab area and drop it where you want it, either filling the full tab area, or splitting it in half.

Mac 4.0b SR-4 screenshot - Cited By open in default location on right side of screen with follow - clicked upper left to display menu:

Followed by copying Cited By panel to new tab, then dragging tab to different panel - then turned off follow, searched for strong's greek #, clicked larger icon to display menu:

Observation: personally prefer Louw-Nida #'s in New Testament - a Strong's # can have several Louw-Nida #'s based on semantic domain (contextual) usage.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222237#Comment_222237

Bug ? - Logos 4.2a Beta 7 basic search of all text in entire library using wildcards does not include any bibles: judg*ment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer*

Hi KS4J,

I have just tried a Bible search using the string "judgment WITHIN 4 WORDS believer" (so no wildcard) against "All Bibles" and don't find any hits.

So it doesn't look like a bug, just no matches!

Graham

Thanks + concur - learned search judg*ment WITHIN 8 WORDS believer* does find some bibles. Also Thanks to Mark Barnes, learned ANDNOT (type:bible) has no effect when searching all text in entire library - now to create a collection.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217676#Comment_217676

Therefore create a collection that excludes Bibles (you'll use this often in searches) and re-run the search. The syntax for the collection is rating:>=0 ANDNOT (type:bible)

Created collection using type:* ANDNOT type:bible

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222242#Comment_222242

When I click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of the "cited by" panel nothing happens. I have tried this over and over, and it will not open when the panel is docked.

Interestingly, if I drag the panel to another location, it expands and I get the image shown in KS4J's third image above. THEN, I can get the panel menu to drop down.

Seems to me to be an obvious bug, although it is interesting it is only happening to me.

Here's the exact steps to reproduce the problem.

1. Clear all panels so that L4 workspace is blank. This should automatically bring up the home page.

2. From the home page, I went to "tools" menu and selected "cited by" under "lookup"

3. This brings up my cited by panel in the default location on the far right.

4. I am unable to get any kind of menu by clicking on the upper left corner of the panel

5. If I drag the panel so that it fills up half the workspace, I am then able to get the panel menu to drop down.

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222286#Comment_222286

When I click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of the "cited by" panel nothing happens. I have tried this over and over, and it will not open when the panel is docked.

Interestingly, if I drag the panel to another location, it expands and I get the image shown in KS4J's third image above. THEN, I can get the panel menu to drop down.

Seems to me to be an obvious bug, although it is interesting it is only happening to me.

Here's the exact steps to reproduce the problem.

1. Clear all panels so that L4 workspace is blank. This should automatically bring up the home page.

2. From the home page, I went to "tools" menu and selected "cited by" under "lookup"

3. This brings up my cited by panel in the default location on the far right.

4. I am unable to get any kind of menu by clicking on the upper left corner of the panel

5. If I drag the panel so that it fills up half the workspace, I am then able to get the panel menu to drop down.

Bryan

Yes, that sounds like a bug to me, too. I'm not a Mac user so I can't help try to reproduce it and report it, but maybe one of the other MVPs or beta testers who are Mac users could help verify if it is indeed a bug and whether it affects other users or is dependent on your configuration somehow, and what version(s) it appears in, and get it reported to the appropriate channels.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222287#Comment_222287

Seems to work fine for me in stable.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222286#Comment_222286

When I click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of the "cited by" panel nothing happens. I have tried this over and over, and it will not open when the panel is docked.

Interestingly, if I drag the panel to another location, it expands and I get the image shown in KS4J's third image above. THEN, I can get the panel menu to drop down.

Seems to me to be an obvious bug, although it is interesting it is only happening to me.

Here's the exact steps to reproduce the problem.

1. Clear all panels so that L4 workspace is blank. This should automatically bring up the home page.

2. From the home page, I went to "tools" menu and selected "cited by" under "lookup"

3. This brings up my cited by panel in the default location on the far right.

4. I am unable to get any kind of menu by clicking on the upper left corner of the panel

5. If I drag the panel so that it fills up half the workspace, I am then able to get the panel menu to drop down.

Bryan

Apologies - unable to replicate using Logos Bible Software 4.0b SR-4 (4.10.4.9457) - opened to home page, then Cited By:

Also opened a layout with many resources and couple floating windows, used close all command (returned to home page), then opened Cited By - could click to see menu (screen shot shows mouse location).

Wonder if restarting Mac then launching Logos 4 Mac and trying again makes any difference ?

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222320#Comment_222320

Wonder if restarting Mac then launching Logos 4 Mac and trying again makes any difference ?

No difference. I try it everytime I open the program and always the same thing. The drop-down menu will only appear after moving the panel to a new location.

KS4J, I notice in your screenshot that you have quite a few shortcuts up next to your command search prompt. Can you give some insight as to how to effectively use these? What sorts of resources do you choose to put there and why?

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222286#Comment_222286

When I click on the orange icon in the upper left corner of the "cited by" panel nothing happens. I have tried this over and over, and it will not open when the panel is docked.

Interestingly, if I drag the panel to another location, it expands and I get the image shown in KS4J's third image above. THEN, I can get the panel menu to drop down.

I just realized that the problem described above is not limited to "cited by", it applies to all the "tools" panels that open in the same location as "cited by" ("information", "power lookup", "pronunciation", "copy Bible verses", "text comparison"). It also happens with the tools that open on the left side of the workspace: ("favorites", "highlighting", "history", and "reading lists").

It appears that any panel that opens with that smaller icon will not give the drop down menu until the panel is moved to a new location (at which point the icon in the tab gets bigger).

Bryan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222568#Comment_222568

KS4J, I notice in your screenshot that you have quite a few shortcuts up next to your command search prompt. Can you give some insight as to how to effectively use these? What sorts of resources do you choose to put there and why?

Personal preferences - can drag and drop Bibles (English, Greek, & Hebrew) in panels for verse lookup and comparison (or right click - open in floating window). Many months ago using Logos 4 PC, copied "close all" command to shortcut bar, sync to Mac; quite useful to close all open panels with one click. Also created shortcuts for couple reading plans (changed icons to red and blue books). Have a shortcut for one layout plus several original language learning resources (especially Hebrew step by step) and some favorite reference resources.

Several shortcut ideas came from various forum discussions.

No difference. I try it everytime I open the program and always the same thing. The drop-down menu will only appear after moving the panel to a new location.

Wonder about screen size ? Default Cited By menu works on 20" iMac internal monitor.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222770#Comment_222770

copied "close all" command to shortcut bar, sync to Mac

Can't figure out how to put commands in the shortcut bar. I could drag and drop items from the drop down menus, as well as panels from the workspace, but couldn't find the "close all" command anywhere in order to drag it.

Also, is it possible to change icon size? They are too small to really see what they are.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222815#Comment_222815

Can't figure out how to put commands in the shortcut bar. I could drag and drop items from the drop down menus, as well as panels from the workspace, but couldn't find the "close all" command anywhere in order to drag it.

Theory: Begin typing "close all" (without quotes) in the command box. Drag the command that appears in the dropdown to the shortcut bar.

Practice: Command shortcuts don't work in Mac stable for the moment. They used to, but not any more. It's been fixed in the beta, but it doesn't seem like they'll take the time to fix it in stable. So unless you can do this in a PC and then sync with the Mac, you'll just have to wait for the next stable release. Or move over to the beta program, which I don't recommend for anyone who doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

Melissa Snyder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222815#Comment_222815

Can't figure out how to put commands in the shortcut bar. I could drag and drop items from the drop down menus, as well as panels from the workspace, but couldn't find the "close all" command anywhere in order to drag it.

Bryan,

I've asked our technical support dept to have a tech contact you about the Cited By panel menu issue. The "Close All" command is one you type into the Command box. Once the command appears in the suggested match list, click and drag it to the shortcut bar. If it doesn't accept the shortcut, you may need to wait until the next version, 4.2a, is released.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/223518#Comment_223518

When I try to drag and drop the "close all" command, I get the little "locator cursor" to show me where I want the shortcut to be placed, but when I drop it, the locator cursor just sits there. Next time I open the program, it is gone. I'll wait for the next version.

Ron

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222282#Comment_222282

Can somebody link to this thread from the Wiki? There is some very helpful information in here about learning to use the search functions effectively.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225927#Comment_225927

Can somebody link to this thread from the Wiki?

added to Detailed Search Help as subHeading Tips on searching

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/225935#Comment_225935

Can somebody link to this thread from the Wiki?

added to Detailed Search Help as subHeading Tips on searching

Also added this thread to http://wiki.logos.com/Tips_from_the_Forum

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/222247#Comment_222247

After a few whiffs, I'm turning to the forum...

I'm trying to find a specific resource that explains the differences in the account between Josephus and Acts 12 concerning Herod's death.

I've tried:

Josephus NEAR acts 12

Josephus NEAR compar* NEAR acts 12

Any suggestions for creating a more specific search--using several terms?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326181#Comment_326181

Any suggestions for creating a more specific search--using several terms?

You need Josephus NEAR <Acts 12>, so that Logos knows you're referring to the Biblical passage. I may be inclined to search for Josephus NEAR Herod though, or probably Josephus NEAR "Herod Agrippa", or Josephus NEAR Agrippa. If I was feeling particularly clever, I'd go for Josephus NEAR (Herod,Agrippa) and do a ranked search.

Those searches (or a search of Josephus' works for Agrippa) give you the reference in Josephus, and you can then see what resources refer to that. The syntax is <JosephusLoeb ~ Antiquities of the Jews 19.343-352>,<JosephusWhiston = Antiquities of the Jews XIX, viii 2> (remember there are two reference systems for Josephus).

But because you're interested in a comparison with Acts 12, don't search for that on it's own. Instead do a search for the Josephus reference near the Acts 12 reference. That should nail it:
(<JosephusLoeb ~ Antiquities of the Jews 19.343-352>,<JosephusWhiston = Antiquities of the Jews XIX, viii 2>) NEAR <Acts 12>

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326181#Comment_326181

Any suggestions for creating a more specific search--using several terms?

One option is creating a Josephus collection, then search for <Acts 12> in that collection:

Another option is searching Entire Library for <Acts 12> NEAR Josephus NEAR death

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326185#Comment_326185

But because you're interested in a comparison with Acts 12, don't search for that on it's own. Instead do a search for the Josephus reference near the Acts 12 reference. That should nail it:
(<JosephusLoeb ~ Antiquities of the Jews 19.343-352>,<JosephusWhiston = Antiquities of the Jews XIX, viii 2>) NEAR <Acts 12>

Yes, this search form worked very well! A very manageable 76 results.

Below is a quote from one resource that directly answered my question:

'The two accounts of his death which we have, in Acts 12:19–23, and Josephus, Antiq. xix. 8. 2, with many variations, are yet in thorough and detailed agreement on the principal points... —It thus appears that the principal points: Caeserea as the scene of the incident, the brilliant robe, the flattering shout, the sudden death—are common to both narratives, although the details have been somewhat diversified in the course of transmission.

Emil Schürer, vol. 2, A History of the Jewish People in the Time of Jesus Christ, First Division, Vol. II. (Edinburgh: T&T Clark, 1890), 163-64.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326370#Comment_326370

To follow up...

Does the math signs < and > serve as quotation marks to group Bible book with chapter/verse?

What function is served by " " quotation marks? Does it differ from < > ?

Do parenthesis ( ) group ideas together--sort of a "complete this first" before going to next search element?

Commas , separate differing terms. If one uses a comma, must it be in parenthesis?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326372#Comment_326372

Ted: When you have time, you'll benefit from working your way through http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help - which tells you all you need to know about searching, and is (hopefully) written in a way that can be understood. To answer your specific questions:

The indicators < and > are used to indicate that we're searching for a datatype (a special link). Logos doesn't look at the text, when it searches, but where the text points to. For example a commentary on Acts that said "see chapter 12" would not be returned for a search for "Acts 12" (the word Acts isn't mentioned), but would be returned for a search that said <Acts 12>, because the underlying link points to chapter 12. Incidentally, the full syntax would be <bible ~ Acts 12>, but Logos recognise that the most usual datatype to be searched is the Bible datatype, and therefore if you leave out the datatype name, it assumes you mean the Bible: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Searching_for_Bible_Verses_and_other_References
Quotation marks " and " mean that you're searching for a specific phrase: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Phrases
Parentheses ( and ) do group together search terms. When the items in the parenthesis are separated by a comma, it creates a list, where each of the search terms are examined in turn. So the search (a, b) NEAR c, means first search for a NEAR c, then search for b NEAR c, then show me the results that match either search: http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Using_parentheses and http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Using_lists
Commas don't need to be used in parentheses if there's nothing else being searched for. The search string a,b,c is perfectly valid (like the one in my second paragraph). But as soon as you introduce any additional criteria, you need to add the parentheses, e.g. (a,b,c) AND d. That's because otherwise Logos would think you meant (a,b,c AND d) which is quite different. Putting parentheses around a list when it's not necessary won't harm your search, so it's probably best to always do it, unless you're sure you'll remember to add them when needed.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/326403#Comment_326403

Mark, thanks for the helpful explanations. I appreciate your time and wisdom!

Tim Engwer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/217676#Comment_217676

It doesn't necessarily matter if you return hundreds of thousands of results if you have a good query, and your results are Ranked or By Count. The best results should come to the top.

What is the difference in functionality between By Count and By Title? Obviously both show the titles. COuld you explain why one would use one over the other?

BTW I know a lot of people have complained about topic searching not being as effective as in L3 but as I have learned and used the techniques you mention above (particularly large text search) I have found topic searching to be better for me in L4. I am eagerly waiting to see the further improvements that are said to be coming soon for topic searching!

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/327419#Comment_327419

What is the difference in functionality between By Count and By Title? Obviously both show the titles. COuld you explain why one would use one over the other?

By Title - results are placed with their source and resources are sorted by title

By Count - as above but resources are sorted by number of results/hits (highest first).