Ark of Covenant Info Graphic wrong pole orientation

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 8 2011 2:21 PM

Floyd Johnson:

But Google is always right - and it has a different set of pictures when one searches images for "Ark of the Covenant" ... 

Actually, Google is always LEFT.  It supports "the Annointed One."  Cool

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יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

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Gary Pachal | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 19 2013 8:13 AM

Looking at Exodus 25:17-21 it states that the Mercy Seat is of the same proportions as the Ark itself (2.5 cubits long by 1.5 cubits wide).  It goes on to state that the angels shall be placed at the ends (H7098 qatsah) of the Mercy Seat with wings extended to cover it.  Ends refer to the shortest sides of a rectangle; therefore, it follows that the longer sides are called sides.  We can safely assume that this naming of sides and ends would follow through to any reference to the Ark itself.  That would then place the rings on the long sides not the ends.

In addition, the word for feet (H6471 pa am or pa amah) is also translated corner means a stroke which is a vertical line and would thus seem to be better translated as corner (referring to the whole edge from top to bottom where the sides meet the ends).  This explains the Temple version of the Ark without feet.  

As to the actual placement of the poles, it is possible that the rings are attached to the long sides, but extend over the the corners (edge) so that they protrude past the long sides so that the poles, when inserted into the rings, are actually parallel to the ends (short sides).  Think about attaching rings to a side of the Ark; the most practical way is to have a flange attached to the ring to anchor it using three points in the most secure manner.  This would allow the whole ring to extend beyond the corner (edge) so that a pole could be inserted.

The best argument for this placement of the poles though comes from a look at the Mercy Seat itself.  In ancient times, it was not unusual for a monarch to have servants or guards next to his throne.  The angels here on the Mercy Seat performed that function.  It follows that they were placed at the side of the LORD and not in front and behind him as this would both block his view and not allow anyone to approach him.  We know that the High Priest could approach him there for the LORD himself states that "I will meet you there."  Now if the angels are on the ends and the LORD is facing one of the long sides with his back to the other long side, it would be outrageous and disrespectful to carry the Ark with the LORD facing sideways which would be the case if the poles were parallel to the long sides.  What king would go into battle, and we know that the Ark had been taken into battle before, facing sideways where he could not see and assess the enemy in battle?  

The only question unanswered is the exact placement of the rings on the sides; at the bottom, top or somewhere in between.  Based on previous comments that referred to the tipping of the Ark and the ill-fated attempt by Uzzah to steady it (2 Samuel 6), people have attempted to say that the Ark was placed on the ox cart with the short sides facing front and back which makes it more tip worthy.  This postulation is most likely based on an unstated assumption that poles run parallel to the long sides.  This argument ignores that fact that tipping does not occur only in one direction.  I believe that the the Ark was loaded with the long sides facing front and back for the reasons stated above.  This then would make it more likely that when the ox stumbled causing a forward momentum change, it caused to Ark to begin to tip forward.  It's similar to when you're riding in a car and the brakes are applied suddenly; you find yourself thrust forward.

In summary, first the Ark did not have feet, but that the word so translated refers to its corners/edges.  Second, it had rings on the long side protruding over the edge so that the poles were parallel to the short sides (ends).  Third, the placement of the angels help us place the LORD as facing one of the long sides.  

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Milkman | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Mar 20 2013 6:41 AM

@ Todd,

Indy, why is the floor moving. Oh great, asps, I hate asps.

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BERNARD POKORSKI | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 25 2020 11:33 AM

I am coming into this conversation a little late, Having recently ordered and received a miniature replica of the Ark of the Covenant from an online supplier, I was surprised to see that the 'staves' ( poles) traverse the ends of miniature replica instead of the sides. There are some very valid points posted on the stave's orientation, and I would like to Thank everyone for their thoughts on the matter. 

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JRS | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 7:33 AM

Certainly, this has been one of the weightiest theological issues on these forums.  

Next up: those dancing angels on the head of a pin - which way is the pin oriented?

How blessed is the one whom Thou dost choose, and bring near to Thee(Psa 65:4a)

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jan 26 2020 4:29 PM

JRS:
Next up: those dancing angels on the head of a pin - which way is the pin oriented?

You're asking, What's the point?  :-)

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