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Andrew Hanson | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:19 AM

So, rumors are flying about that a new Macbook Pro will be introduced on Thursday. Apple's online store now has a 3-5 business day shipping window for the Pros. I've been holding off on pulling the trigger to buy a new machine for months now, and my trigger finger is getting really itchy. Anybody else planning to get a new machine when they roll out? I must admit, I've had a bit of tech lust lately. It will be nice to finally get the machine so I can use it instead of thinking about using it. 

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:25 AM

I'm not in the market, but I'll be drooling if half the rumors are true. Light-peak? Liquidmetal? Custom built-in SSD option+HD, and no DVD drive?

RReally excited for this one.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 9:11 AM

Ben:

I'm not in the market, but I'll be drooling if half the rumors are true. Light-peak? Liquidmetal? Custom built-in SSD option+HD, and no DVD drive?

RReally excited for this one.

Yes in the same here, not expecting to get a new laptop for 3 or 4 years but always cool to see what new features they come out with. Although this sounds like it might be a complete redesign and I am always a bit cautious  of  the completely new design, I got one of the Titanium Powerbooks and it was a bit of disappointment, screen died twice only once under warranty, and had no audio input, also it seemed to have poorly designed hinges. But other than that it was a great machine. LOL Anyway just always cool to see the new designs, and what they come up with. I really think my next book might be an Air, something ultra light and a smaller screen is no big deal for me.

-Dan

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 1:51 PM

Really juicy rumors.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/21/new-macbook-pro-models-imminent-weve-got-some-new-details

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 7:14 PM

Having been around the block with technology, I'd probably wait until something ships, watch for any fallout and then order. The Sandy Bridge chips had a problem out of the gate. Such is life on the bleeding edge.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 21 2011 8:20 PM

Michael Ballai:

Having been around the block with technology, I'd probably wait until something ships, watch for any fallout and then order. The Sandy Bridge chips had a problem out of the gate. Such is life on the bleeding edge.

Sandy Bridge processors were ok; supporting chipset had issues with SATA port 3 and higher degrading performance over time - chipset not an issue for many laptops that only use SATA ports 0 and 1 for internal drives (including optical).

After new models ship, if hardware has an issue, complaints tend to appear within a month or so.

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Andrew Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Feb 22 2011 12:22 PM

Michael Ballai:

Having been around the block with technology, I'd probably wait until something ships, watch for any fallout and then order. The Sandy Bridge chips had a problem out of the gate. Such is life on the bleeding edge.

True, but I will always have my Macbook that I'm currently using to fall back on if something goes wrong. Plus, design/quality issues are what Applecare is for. Right now, the performance of my Macbook is a real issue for me getting my work done in a timely matter. For some of us, this upgrade can't get here soon enough.

Also, as Keep Smiling noted, the problem wasn't with the CPUs but the boards, and only on certain SATA ports, which I understand Apple doesn't use anyway. That's not to say something else couldn't go wrong, but something else could always go wrong - even with mature tech.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 8:08 AM

Looks like they are now here. The only thing that puzzles me is why they went with some USB 2.0 ports since USB 3.0 is now here. I think they are simply drumming more biz for their new connector, USB 3.0 will probably get on in the next refresh.

Yes I want one anyway, but feeding my Logos addiction takes priority at the moment...Cool

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Joey Mavity | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 8:21 AM

They won't offer USB3.0. They're jumping to "Thunderbolt", which is their implementation of Intel's "LightPeak", which is an optical interconnect.

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Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 11:18 AM

I'm thinking that these new MacBook Pros will handle Logos 4 very well and might end a lot of peoples frustrations. At least I hope this is true with all of the major updates under the hood. 

M. Hanson

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Ben | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 11:56 AM

One of the Gizmodo writers is arguing these are too powerful for the average user. Interesting perspective. Stick out tongue

http://gizmodo.com/#!5769398/why-most-people-shouldnt-buy-the-new-macbook-pros

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 12:45 PM

Ben:

One of the Gizmodo writers is arguing these are too powerful for the average user. Interesting perspective. Stick out tongue

http://gizmodo.com/#!5769398/why-most-people-shouldnt-buy-the-new-macbook-pros

It is true the machine is serious overkill for the majority of users,  but while I am happy with my i7 mock quad core (4 threads) the new quad core mbp look great. And I like how they added in thunderbolt without taking away previous connections. For those wanting a new MacBOOK these look like awesome machines, I am sure Logos will run very happily on them, and as processor hungry as Logos is perhaps this machine was made for us.

 

-Dan

 

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 12:48 PM

Power is relative. I was amazed at all I could do on a Powerbook 140 with 2MB of RAM and a 20MB hard drive.

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 3:58 PM

Michael Ballai:

Power is relative. I was amazed at all I could do on a Powerbook 140 with 2MB of RAM and a 20MB hard drive.

O so very true but Logos won't even run on a PowerPC let alone a lowly 68000 series admittedly there are 2 current Bible Apps out there that will still run on a 68000 series machine but both are amazing powerful programs.  I would still be happily using my PowerBook G4 1.67 if it wasn't for Logos. That being said I am not overly sad about my Intel MBP, and while I tend to find Logos a little sluggish on what was one of the fastest MacBook Pros available (i7 2.66, i do know it got bumped to 2.8 in October). I do understand that many people with slower intel macs find Logos almost unusable.  I know Logos will optimize the program as the go but not sure a older intel mac will ever give satisfactory performance.  But many of us need to learn the virtue of patience.

 

-Dan

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Andrew Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 8:01 PM

Well, I got mine. 15 inch with a 2.3 GHz i7, 4G RAM, and at 750 GB HDD running at 5400 RPM. Re-downloading my 7+ GB of resources right now. Can't wait to see how Logos runs now. If it's still slow, I will probably put some money aside to get a SSD when they drop a bit more in price. 

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Dan Higgins | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 9:33 PM

I am using my new MBP 17".  Used the built in migration tool that comes with the new mac.  Tried to start Logos.  A window opens and I get the little musical jingle.  But then it hangs with nothing being displayed.  I'm wondering if there is a problem "transferring" to a new system like that.

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Dan Higgins | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Feb 24 2011 9:43 PM

Reinstalled and now it seems to work.  Not sure what the issue is.  But I am happy now!  Big Smile

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 6:30 AM

Andrew Hanson:

Well, I got mine. 15 inch with a 2.3 GHz i7, 4G RAM, and at 750 GB HDD running at 5400 RPM. Re-downloading my 7+ GB of resources right now. Can't wait to see how Logos runs now. If it's still slow, I will probably put some money aside to get a SSD when they drop a bit more in price. 

Likewise curious about Logos performance.

Primate Labs has Mac Book Pro benchmarks => http://www.primatelabs.ca/blog/2011/02/macbookpro-benchmarks-early-2011/ - substantial processing speed increase.

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Andrew Hanson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Feb 25 2011 9:26 PM

My experience with Logos is dramatically improved. I no longer am dealing with an almost constant beach-ball effect. The extra two inches of screen real-estate at a much higher resolution really improves the experience as well. At this point, I think I can wait quite a while before bumping up to a SSD. Even more speed would be great, but not at the prices SSDs are going for these days. 

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