N.T. Wright

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Chuck | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Feb 27 2011 6:17 PM

I just watched the Logos video on N.T. Wright.  I checked my collection and don't have any books by him.  I like to know a little something about those I read.  I don't know anything about N.T. Wright.  Can you comment on his positions.  Is he considered a conservative, evangelical, liberal?  Just interested in what others have to say regarding N.T. Wright's theological stance.

Thanks

 

 

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Greg Masone | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 27 2011 6:22 PM

If you search the forums for N. T. Wright, there's already a few threads covering those issues.

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Feb 27 2011 6:51 PM

Chuck:
I just watched the Logos video on N.T. Wright.  ... Can you comment on his positions.  Is he considered a conservative, evangelical, liberal?

N T Wright is Anglican (Episcopalian). He has lectured at Cambridge and Oxford, as well as Regent College (Canada). Until recently he was the Bishop of Durham (UK), but has now moved to Aberdeen Uni (Scotland) as a research fellow in NT studies.

I consider Wright to be conservative/evangelical (e.g. he does believe in the resurrection of Christ as a fact of history), but he succeeds in engaging in debate with liberal scholars in a way that very few evangelicals even attempt. For example, he argues that there's nothing wrong with the questions liberals/enlightenment thinkers asked about the historical Jesus, but that the way they approached answering those questions was inadequate. So, the the Christian Origins and the Question of God Series, he demonstrates another way to do that kind of study that does not destroy faith. (BTW, Volume 1 of that series, The New Testament and the People of God is on a half-price special this month: if you search back in the forums, you will find the coupon.)

I can't recommend Wright highly enough. The way he takes the gospels seriously as history is life-changing. Richard Hays is not overstating the case when he says:
"... no New Testament scholar since Bultmann has even attempted—let alone achieved—such an innovative and comprehensive account of New Testament history and theology"

When it comes to Pauline studies, Wright is also very insightful, but he has upset some in the Reformed tradition by accepting aspects of the New Perspective on Paul -- a view that Luther and Calvin may have misread Paul through the filter of the struggles of their own time. While I can't see the sense of what Wright does with some of these passages, I still find him refreshingly enlightening in his approach to Paul. Especially with regard to the big picture (Adam, Abraham, Israel, Jesus, church, new heavens/earth), he is invaluable. His For Everyone commentaries are part of the 34-volume collection that's on pre-pub.

Naturally, no one is right all of the time, but Wright is just surperb: historically very sound, exegetically deep, faith filled, academically engaged, socially informed,  and refreshingly expressed.

You need to read Wright.

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David Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:01 AM

A good resource to help check out his position on various topics is: http://www.ntwrightpage.com/

Scoll well down to get an idea of the scope of the content there.

Very much recommended.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:24 AM

Allen Browne:
You need to read Wright.

Thank you Allen for that insightful post. Great job. Yes

Bohuslav

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:27 AM

David J. Wilson:

A good resource to help check out his position on various topics is: http://www.ntwrightpage.com/

Nice to see Logos mentioned there, with a link. But unfortunately it's a broken link (to Jesus and the Victory of God back when it was still in pre-pub), and people not familiar with Logos might not know to search for it by title; they'll just see that it's a product Logos doesn't carry anymore and might give up. Also they might miss out on the rest of the Christian Origins and the Question of God Series (3 vols.) and the N. T. Wright Collection (34 vols.).

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:48 AM

David J. Wilson:
A good resource to help check out his position on various topics is: http://www.ntwrightpage.com/

Thanks for the link - obviously much to read especially the articles on his hermeneutics.

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Chuck | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:02 AM

I searched but was unable to find the coupon for half price.  If you have it, can you include in a reply?

Thanks

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:05 AM

Chuck:

I searched but was unable to find the coupon for half price.  If you have it, can you include in a reply?

We are requested by Logos not to post coupon codes on the forums. (See http://community.logos.com/forums/t/10072.aspx.) But if you contact a Sales rep and tell him or her that you heard there might be a coupon sale going on now, I'm guessing you'll probably be able to get that sale price, if it's still going on. They generally go out of their way to give you the best deal available at the time.

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Ron Corbett | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 8:58 AM

I watched the Logos interview with him on the Blog. What a delightful and insightful man. I was blessed.

I may not agree with him on some things, but he seems to have a heart of gold :) 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 2:33 PM

Ron Corbett:

I watched the Logos interview with him on the Blog. What a delightful and insightful man. I was blessed.

I may not agree with him on some things, but he seems to have a heart of gold :) 

I would recommend the interview to all.  Pay particular attention to his statements regarding those who were most helpful to him (near the beginning).  He says very much the same as I have been saying all along -- read those with whom you know you will disagree -- they will cause you to think.

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:00 PM

George Somsel:

Ron Corbett:

I watched the Logos interview with him on the Blog. What a delightful and insightful man. I was blessed.

I may not agree with him on some things, but he seems to have a heart of gold :) 

I would recommend the interview to all.  Pay particular attention to his statements regarding those who were most helpful to him (near the beginning).  He says very much the same as I have been saying all along -- read those with whom you know you will disagree -- they will cause you to think.

Same here. I appreciated his comments and honesty. I do disagree with him on quite a bit, but I respect him.

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:03 PM

Allen Browne:
(BTW, Volume 1 of that series, The New Testament and the People of God is on a half-price special this month: if you search back in the forums, you will find the coupon.)

Thanks for mentioning that! Got it through a sales rep.

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Jonathan Watson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:44 PM

I feel the same way Ron. I'm working my way through The New Testament and the People of God, as well as Jesus and the Victory of God. So far they are incredibly well written, and deeply thought out. The man has a towering intellect, I can't wait to delve further into what he has to say.

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MJD | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Feb 28 2011 5:44 PM

He is a great writer with clear concise transfer of thought.

 

 

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2011 2:37 PM

I posted this in the blog section but think it might go missed there.

At 4:40 into the interview Wright says that C.S. Lewis' "view on the historical Jesus is very worrying". Anyone have any idea what in particular he's talking about?

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2011 4:11 PM

Brad Fry:

At 4:40 into the interview Wright says that C.S. Lewis' "view on the historical Jesus is very worrying". Anyone have any idea what in particular he's talking about?

He has a great deal of respect for Lewis, but has some critiques. He elaborates on them in this article, and that issue in particular in the sections titled "What Christians Believe" and "Lewis’s Cross." A key sentence is "There is virtually no mention, and certainly no treatment, of Israel and the Old Testament, and consequently no attempt to place Jesus in his historical or theological context." Wright is doing the quintessentially academic thing (perhaps seen more and done more eloquently and cordially in British academia than North America) of seriously challenging academic equals whom you respect and admire and have learned a lot from, but pointing out flaws in their writing. It is designed not to cut down nor judge but to get all involved to become better thinkers. Alas, Lewis is gone and can't defend himself or follow up with an improved version of his book, sharpened by the iron of Wright's critique.

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Brad Fry | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Mar 1 2011 5:14 PM

Thank you, Rosie!

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 10 2011 3:06 PM

Rosie Perera:

Brad Fry:

At 4:40 into the interview Wright says that C.S. Lewis' "view on the historical Jesus is very worrying". Anyone have any idea what in particular he's talking about?

He has a great deal of respect for Lewis, but has some critiques. He elaborates on them in this article, and that issue in particular in the sections titled "What Christians Believe" and "Lewis’s Cross." A key sentence is "There is virtually no mention, and certainly no treatment, of Israel and the Old Testament, and consequently no attempt to place Jesus in his historical or theological context." Wright is doing the quintessentially academic thing (perhaps seen more and done more eloquently and cordially in British academia than North America) of seriously challenging academic equals whom you respect and admire and have learned a lot from, but pointing out flaws in their writing. It is designed not to cut down nor judge but to get all involved to become better thinkers. Alas, Lewis is gone and can't defend himself or follow up with an improved version of his book, sharpened by the iron of Wright's critique.

Very interesting comment Rosie. Thank you.

Bohuslav

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 10 2011 3:28 PM

Rosie Perera:
There is virtually no mention, and certainly no treatment, of Israel and the Old Testament, and consequently no attempt to place Jesus in his historical or theological context."

For Lent I am reading The Lord by Romano Guardini which generally avoids the historical or theological context in favor of the liturgical context. His philosophy for this particular book is "We can only reverently pause before this or that word or act [of Jesus], ready to learn, adore, obey." So my first question would be "what was C.S. Lewis's goal and was historical/theological context necessary to reach that goal?" Not really a counterpoint - just a way to sneak a fascinating quote in.Smile

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