Logos Bible Software 4.2a Now Shipping
Check out a complete list of what's new in 4.2a and tell us what you are looking forward to.
I love the new “Illustrations” section that has been added to the Passage Guide. I tried it out and it looks very helpful! I have a lot of books in Logos and finding sermon illustrations used to be like looking for a needle in a haystack. This is will help a lot! Thanks!
I think the new Large Text searching is going to be the most useful to me. Since most books use larger text for their headings I'll be able to hone in on relevant article much easier.
The developers caught a small bug in the update. If you have already updated to 4.2a, you can type "Update Now" in the command bar to get 4.2a SR-1, otherwise it will download the update automatically the next time you launch Logos 4.
Jayson--I can imagine team Logos is going to make a lot of people happy with this release. For me, the illustrations will be a frequently used section of the PG. Nice. But I know the "Download scheduler" and the "release notes" features will be very, very appreciated by Logos users around the globe. And it will cut out some forum discussions, too! [:O] [;)]
I have checked out the new 4.2a and am disappointed some speed issues weren't dealt with. I see no improvement whatsoever in this area. I am on a Mac that is less than a year old. It has the i7 processor with 4GB of RAM. When I am editing my Prayer List, I click the 'Add Request' button and about 45 seconds later I get a blank prayer request that I can begin entering. 45 seconds? That is ridiculous. This is the biggest of my 'slow' issues. I have just learned to live with the others though. I love Logos, but I am getting very frustrated. When I talk with folks, I tell them not to upgrade to version 4.
BTW, this was after indexing.
There is a *big* difference in performance between the PC and Mac versions. The PC version still has its performance issues, but the Mac version continues to be much slower. It's not really fair to warn people away from v4 on the PC (which is what I assume you are doing, since there is no real upgrade otherwise for the Mac) based on experiences from the Mac.
That said, 4.2a does bring some noticeable performance improvements to the Mac version, just not to all areas. Progress has been slower than I would like, but there has been progress and it encourages me that such improvements will spread throughout the Mac version.
I guess I should have played around with it a little more. It does seem to be a little more responsive in some areas. I just wanted to try out my most frustrating feature (prayer requests) first. I then went to the release notes and found no mention of fixing speed issues. So, the fact that I can see some progress in some areas, I am encouraged. I hope to see continued progress.
I then went to the release notes and found no mention of fixing speed issues.
For some reason, these sorts of things have not been showing up in the release notes. I'd been doing like you - check the release notes, grumble to myself at no indication of performance fixes. But then I realized that performance was improving anyway. Highlighting, resource scrolling, and passage lists have been three areas where I've seen a lot of improvement. My wish list has at the top continued improvements to passage lists, followed by similar improvements to clippings. I don't use notes much so I'm not as bothered there, and I never use prayer request lists so I've no idea how performance is for that feature.
I have checked out the new 4.2a and am disappointed some speed issues weren't dealt with ....... I am on a Mac that is less than a year old. It has the i7 processor with 4GB of RAM. When I am editing my Prayer List, I click the 'Add Request' button and about 45 seconds later I get a blank prayer request that I can begin entering. 45 seconds? That is ridiculous. This is the biggest of my 'slow' issues. I have just learned to live with the others though. I love Logos, but I am getting very frustrated. When I talk with folks, I tell them not to upgrade to version 4.
Do you really do that? Tell people not to upgrade to L4? Perhaps you should reconsider that advice? Probably none of my business -- however, you posted this publicly on the Logos Forums -- perhaps at least you might consider not blaming the Windows version for weaknesses you perceive in the Mac version.
Joy in the Lord Always!
I ran the update and all has run smoothly along with the indexing. My question is when it says I am getting new resources - is there a way to see what "new" resources have been added to my library? Thanks for the help. Dave Harp
Any 'new' resources that are downloaded after 4.2a is installed (it's a new feature!) will appear on the home page. See this thread for more details: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/30538.aspx
I just did a search using Heading Text in my Sermon Illustrations collection. I am finally getting search results that I can use. Searching for "zeal" and limiting my search to Heading Text only gave 12 results. But these were 12 really good results. Searching for All Text on "zeal" in the collection gave me 230 results. Searching my entire library for "zeal" provided 22,012 results.
I really love the new features! Thanks for listening!
I am glad to see, appearing frequently, the message that there is an update being downloaded.
I do wish there was a list (or log) of downloads to my computer.
After 4.2a is installed, new downloads will be shown on the home page (after they are downloaded).
I have enjoyed getting to know and become familiar with Logos4 over the older version Logos 3. It is so different and, in my opinion, so much better. The one thing I enjoyed about Logos 3 over the new version is that when I did a search for a word in the Bible I could directly copy any results by highlighting the text (right in the search) and then pasting it into my document. I can no longer do that. Now I have to click on the reference, let it open in a new window, and then I can highlight the text and paste it. It is a small complaint, but it sure would be nice if we could just highlight, copy, and paste right form the search like we used to be able to do in Logos 3. The difference between to the two methods of cutting and pasting is that you don't get any of the reference material coming over when pasting out of the search results, and of course you do when you paste directly out of the actual open Bible text. I would like to see that change in the future back to the way that searches were more accessible in Logos 3. Thanks.
Darren, that feature in L3 was handy. However there are ways to get what you want in L4 easier than what you are doing.
If you want all the search results, use Print/Export. You can send the results to a number of MS programs, including Word if you want.
If you want to select the results choose "Save to a Passage List" from the search menu. In a Passage List you can delete verses you don't want, add others you do, and either copy one or more using the clipboard or use Print/Export for all of them.
I am looking forward to the Bible comparison tool that was in Libronix or logos 3. The tool was thebest for me but unfortunate you have discard it in logos 4 please can you bring the tool in your next update as it gives opportunity for parallel bible versions, passage in all version, parallel passages and harmonies. where are all these tools and a lot more in logos 3.
Hi Nicholas
There is the text comparison tool in Logos 4 - see http://wiki.logos.com/Text_Comparison - but is not available in the lower base packages.
What specific functionality are you looking for?
Graham
In Logos 4 Parallel Bible Versions and Passage in All Versions have their equivalent in the Text Comparison tool, which is on the Tools menu. Parallel passages and harmonies can be accessed from the Library. Enter type:harmony in the Library to see which ones you own.
Nicholas,
Actually these tools are in Logos 4 although with some differences.
Text Comparison under the Tools Menu does what both Parallel Bible Versions and Compare Parallel Bible Versions did in L3.
Parallel Passages and Harmonies shows up in the Passage Guide under Parallel Passages. It is not a separate tool. The Harmonies are actual resources in Logos 4 not part of a tool as in Libronix.
Edit: I see Mark posted before I finished attempting. The good news is nothing has been lost.
In libronix/logos 3, you can read a whole chapter or chapters in different Bibles in different columns side by side. That is what I meant. It made it easier when studying or preaching. I hope you understand my point
We do, and you can still do it in Logos 4 using the Text Comparison Tool (or just by opening multiple Bibles at the same time).
Thanks. How do I do this in tools. i have been trying but it does not come out as you are view it. Please give me guidance.
Blessings
Nicholas, it would be good for you to view the tutorials Mark has put together on how to set up and use Logos. These will help you alot.
Mark used the option drag the Text Comparison pane into his layout and re-size it. Drag the small tab on the tool pane to do this. You can also open this tool in a floating window. That is an option on the tool's individual drop-down menu. That menu gives you other options you are interested in.
See Mark's videos here: http://www.4-14.org.uk/logos/tutorial-videos
