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Nathan Gonzalez | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Mar 24 2011 6:20 PM

I forgot what this was called in greek Exegesis class I believe it was syntax classification but i am basically looking for a lexicon or commentary or something that gives those sub-categories to the cases and  tenses,  such as dative of means, of genitive absolutes. We learned about them in class but I would love to have a resource that identifies those sub categories or at least refers to them . Can anyone help

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 24 2011 6:32 PM

It sounds like you need an intermediate grammar. I recommend Wallace's Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics http://www.logos.com/product/8286/greek-grammar-beyond-the-basics

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 24 2011 6:47 PM

May want to consider Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament, whose review page includes links to several Logos resources.

Also, your Logos library may have http://www.logos.com/product/198/greek-new-testament-insert

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Nathan Gonzalez | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 25 2011 12:57 PM

Thanks for the responses guys. I actually have all those products well the first I have in book form, the others i have because i have Gold i guess. I guess let me rephrase my question a little, I want to be able to look at my greek new testament or any version and when i point and click over a word I want logos to show me subgroupings of the cases such as dative of means, dative of time, and dative of cause like how Logos parses a verb for me , like (3rd person aorist partciple).  

   To my knowledge logos does that indicate this or any commentary i have yet to see but rather you have products like grammar books that tell you about these sub-groups and you need to figure it out yourself.  I'm all about using what i have learned and I can, I would love to have input from scholars with my exegesis of scripture since grammar was not in my top five school subjects.... ever. 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 25 2011 3:14 PM

Nathan Gonzalez:

Thanks for the responses guys. I actually have all those products well the first I have in book form, the others i have because i have Gold i guess. I guess let me rephrase my question a little, I want to be able to look at my greek new testament or any version and when i point and click over a word I want logos to show me subgroupings of the cases such as dative of means, dative of time, and dative of cause like how Logos parses a verb for me , like (3rd person aorist partciple).  

   To my knowledge logos does that indicate this or any commentary i have yet to see but rather you have products like grammar books that tell you about these sub-groups and you need to figure it out yourself.  I'm all about using what i have learned and I can, I would love to have input from scholars with my exegesis of scripture since grammar was not in my top five school subjects.... ever. 

There is no resource that does exactly what you want. Most of Logos' tagging is morphological. Syntax graphs show relationships so you can say "this word is adverbial and modifies this verb" or "this dative modifies this word" but it doesn't give you the classification of Means, Interest etc.

The closest thing to what you want is the Lexham Syntactic GNT, specifically the Expansions and Annotations (click the link it should open it in Logos for you). If you have Gold it's in your library; it specifies syntactic force for every word. Other than this you'll have to sort through commentaries where an author thinks it important to mention the specific force of a word.

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Monty Bower | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 26 2011 2:44 PM

Perhaps you are looking for something like Zerwick & Grosvener's A Grammatical Analysis of the New Testament?

Check it out at http://www.logos.com/product/4229/a-grammatical-analysis-of-the-greek-new-testament

I have used this since my second year Greek class and now have it in hard copy and L4 format. I find it extremely helpful, especially since it has been over 25 years since my last Greek class.

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