New Testament Commentary Similar to Keil & Delitzsch?

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Rick | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011 7:36 AM

Can anyone give a recommendation for a New Testament commentary that is basically very similar to the "Keil & Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament"?

Thanks.

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 8:00 AM

Hi Rick

Would the 'Word Biblical Commentary' meet you needs?

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 8:08 AM

Mike Binks:
Would the 'Word Biblical Commentary' meet you needs?

Unfortunately, it is a bit to pricey at this point in time. I have never looked at any of the hard copies that I have seen, assuming they would be way to scholarly for my simple mind  Smile

What I like about the Keil & Delitzsch is while it deals with the languages, I can still usually make sense of it. Would WBC be the same? Just looking at the sheer size of it is intimidating.

I am projecting that in about 4 months I will be able to buy something as large a WBC if I truly thought that I would use it enough but for a layperson who at the most gives devotional at meetings. I primarily study for my own growth with no additional training other than basic education levels.

Thanks and eager to hear your thoughts concerning the WBC for someone like myself  Yes

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fgh | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 8:47 AM

Rick Hypes:
Unfortunately, it is a bit to pricey at this point in time.

I don't have the WBC, so I can't say anything about it. However, you should know that it's on sale for $499 until Tuesday, on Logos' Facebook page. 

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 9:05 AM

Rick Hypes:
I am projecting that in about 4 months I will be able to buy something as large a WBC if I truly thought that I would use it enough but for a layperson who at the most gives devotional at meetings. I primarily study for my own growth with no additional training other than basic education levels.

Actually I find both K&D and WBC a bit hard going.

One set that you might have a look at is

Hendiksen and Kistemaker

which I find very helpful.

Don't forget that for large purchases you can use the 'Easy Payment Scheme' if that helps.

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 9:16 AM

Mike Binks:

One set that you might have a look at is Hendiksen and Kistemaker

I was able to see a free sample of this one on the web. It looks like it might be something I'll be interested in. Thanks so much!

 

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Super.Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 9:31 AM

Mike Binks:

One set that you might have a look at is

Hendiksen and Kistemaker

which I find very helpful.

YesCool That was exactly what I was going to recommend! So it has got to be gOOd. Wink

Regarding WBC: I find it useful even though it goes much deeper than my language skills. When I consult it I feel like I am swimming in an Olympic size pool but I only swim in the top 3 feet of water. The better your language abilities the more benefit you will realize. But the cost is relative to the vast content. (It ain't cheap.)

Back to Mike's recommendation; as long as you aren't abhorred by commentary from the Reformed perspective you should be happy with Hendriksen & Kistemaker  (aka Baker New Testament Commentary)

disclosure: It is only fair to let you know. I latched on to Hendriksen & Kistemaker in Bible college 30+ years ago.  I liked BNT so much I bought it as one of my first Logos 3 purchases. The BNT was 30 years younger then and the "contemporary scholarship" could have been one reason my professor regarded them so highly. But my professor also recommended Keil & Delitzsch OT commentary so I tend to think it was the content of each he embraced rather than the "newness."

 

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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 10:44 AM

I also use the Baker’s New Testament Commentary as well and I like it very much. Of course with anything I have to make sure I read between their preconceived ideas or which I disagree with.

You were asking for something like Keil & Delitzsch, only a bit easier to read and with some Hebrew study. The Baker Commentary is nice, but only New Testament. Below I have compiled a list of my favorite commentary sets for both the New and Old Testaments.

 

New Testament

Lenski’s Commentary

(Hard Read) (RECOMMENDED)

 

The New International Greek Testament Commentary

(Hard Read) (RECOMMENDED)

 

Baker Exegetical Commentary

(Hard-Medium Read) (RECOMMENDED)

(Partially Completed Commentary Set)

 

Baker’s New Testament Commentary

(Medium Read) (RECOMMENDED)

 

New International Biblical Commentary: New Testament

(Medium Read)

 

Truth for Today Commentary

(Medium-Easy)

 

Old Testament

Keil and Delitzsch Commentary

(Hard Read) (RECOMMENDED)

 

International Critical Commentary

(Very Hard Read)

 

Word Biblical Commentary

(Hard Read)

 

The Pulpit Commentary

(Hard Read)

 

New International Biblical Commentary: Old Testament

(Medium Read) (RECOMMENDED)

 

Truth for Today Commentary (Medium-Easy)

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 11:04 AM

 I appreciate your hard to easy read guides. It makes things easier. I was wondering about a few of them.

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 11:07 AM

Matthew C Jones:
Back to Mike's recommendation; as long as you aren't abhorred by commentary from the Reformed perspective you should be happy with Hendriksen & Kistemaker  (aka Baker New Testament Commentary)

Thanks for the reminder that commentaries will be theologically biased in one form or the other. I need to keep that in mind while researching!

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Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 12:55 PM

Mike Binks:
Back to Mike's recommendation; as long as you aren't abhorred by commentary from the Reformed perspective...  

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Super.Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 12:59 PM

Christopher S Macy:

edit: Regrettably, This is not available in Logos yet. How does it compare to College Press NIV Commentary?  (Written from a similar perspective)

The College Press NIV Commentary Series: Old Testament (CPNIV) (16 vols.)    $398.85

The College Press NIV Commentary Series: New Testament (CPNIV) (19 vols.)    $349.95

fyi: both are included in the Portfolio Edition package.

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Lonnie | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 3:13 PM

Lenski's NT commentary sounds to me like it would meet your needs.

Lonnie

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Christopher S Macy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 4:31 PM

Never said "Truth For Today Commentary" was in Logos, either way, if it were I would have linked it. These are commentaires I like as posted. If you wish you may post your list and let those seeking truth decide.

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Super.Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 7:29 PM

Christopher S Macy:
Never said "Truth For Today Commentary" was in Logos

I'm sorry my post came across that way. I just edited it to include my personal sentiments. I would also add the Gospel Advocate Commentary to my wish list. It is not yet in Logos. Sad

I am happy to get anything from College Press and know of several resources from them currently in Pre-Pub:

Again, I apologize for not being more clear. I appreciate your bringing the Truth for Today series to my attention.     Ack!

 

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Ron | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 8:32 PM

Matthew C Jones:
I am happy to get anything from College Press

Hey Matthew, could you share your thoughts on the College Press NIV Commentary? I haven't decided whether they should be on my wishlist because I haven't been able to find a whole lot of information about them. Sorry for hijacking the thread...if necessary I can start a different thread to ask this question.

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Jim VanSchoonhoven | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 11:04 PM

The Greek Testament (8 vols.) by Alford, Henry

The Expositor's Greek Testament (5 vols.) by Nicoll, W. Robertson

You can search google to find copies to look at.

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Jim VanSchoonhoven

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Rick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Apr 9 2011 11:05 PM

Lonnie:
Lenski's NT commentary sounds to me like it would meet your needs.

How about Pillar? Anyone use them extensively enough? Do they deal with the original languages in an easy enough way for the common folk?

Lastly, as some of you may know I have Anabaptist roots and was wondering about the "Believer's Church Bible Commentary". Does it really represent the traditional Anabaptist view? I'm thinking of buying a single volume just to find out but thought that I would ask here first.

Sorry if I am taking advantage of your generosity too much, but this has been a very, very informative thread for me!

God bless.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 10 2011 3:12 AM

Rick Hypes:
How about Pillar? Anyone use them extensively enough?

The volumes I have used are excellent, especially the volume on John by D A Carson.

Rick Hypes:
Do they deal with the original languages in an easy enough way for the common folk?

Not sure what you mean by "common folk", but I took a quick look at the John volume. Carson does deal with the original language and transliterates the Greek words. I believe that would be true of other volumes as well.

EDIT: Looked at the Romans volume by Leon Morris. He does deal with the Greek, but does not include the Greek words nor does he transliterate.

Rick Hypes:
"Believer's Church Bible Commentary". Does it really represent the traditional Anabaptist view?

I saw that noted in a thread a few weeks back, but I don't remember the topic of the thread, so I cannot find it again. That poster noted that this commentary was written from an Anabaptist perspective. Hopefully, someone better acquainted with that view will answer.

Rick Hypes:
Sorry if I am taking advantage of your generosity too much, but this has been a very, very informative thread for me!

Don't be sorry. That is the forum's purpose for existence (aside from an opportunity for silliness sometimes).

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 11 2011 12:54 PM

Rick Hypes:

How about Pillar? Anyone use them extensively enough? Do they deal with the original languages in an easy enough way for the common folk?

I love the Pillar commentaries!  Very solid scholarship, but I consider it an easier read than something like ICC or Word.  They use transliteration for Greek words.

In my opinion, Pillar is one of the best sets available.  Of course, it does not yet cover the entire New Testament.  It is still a work in progress.

I would also say the Tyndale Commentaries are great.

 

 

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