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Ronald Sharp | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun, Apr 24 2011 5:30 PM

I have the Platinum software and bought the camp logos live training video. I have been prioritizing my books in my library and I have ran into some trouble. I built a guide of my own and I need some help knowing what lexicons to prioritize and the order to put them in in order to do an exegetical word by word. I put many in and still only get two words in John 3:16 for and only. Can someone tell me what books to prioritize and the order to prioritize them in. 

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 6:40 PM

Ronald Sharp:
I have the Platinum software

I have added so many resources to my Platinum base package that I do not remember which lexicons came with it.

By far the best lexicon value is the BDAG/HALOT bundle (http://www.logos.com/product/5228/bdag-halot-bundle) which will give you the academic standard lexicons for both Greek and Hebrew. Unfortunately, neither come with any base package, and the package cost $279.

The next best Hebrew Lexicon is BDB (Brown-Driver-Briggs), and that is included with your base package. This may still be the academic standard; I have not kept us with that.

Louw-Nida (Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament based on Semantic Domains) is in your package

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 8:59 PM

Ronald Sharp:
I put many in and still only get two words in John 3:16 for and only.

Wonder about settings for Word By Word section ?

Prioritization affects display order of lexicons that have an entry for the word.  After clicking "more >>", all lexicons with entries all displayed (does need indexing to be complete).

Screen Shot shows an example prioritization of original language lexicons and corresponding order in Word by Word section along with only displaying greek words that occur 30 times or less: (e.g. μονογενής occurs 9 times in New Testament)

Personally created a custom guide "Word by Word - All" that only has Word by Word section (and customized "My Exegetical Guide" to remove Word by Word).

Library priority order is based on personal preferences; still adjusting my order after reading and learning more in variety of resources.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Apr 24 2011 10:34 PM

Jack Caviness:
By far the best lexicon value is the BDAG/HALOT bundle (http://www.logos.com/product/5228/bdag-halot-bundle) which will give you the academic standard lexicons for both Greek and Hebrew. Unfortunately, neither come with any base package, and the package cost $279.

Looking at http://www.logos.com/comparison noticed BDAG is included in Scholar's Platinum and Portfolio packages.  HALOT is in Portfolio.  For Scholar's Platinum, Advanced Hebrew Supplement (11 vols.) for $ 259.95 includes HALOT plus more.

Personally find BDAG challenging to read when list of items are densely packed together.  For example, ἀρχή has 7 numbered definitions; the 1 a examples from many historical sources are extensive:

For formatting, wish BDAG had unordered lists of * examples; e.g. reformatted definition 2 (along with expanding most abbreviations).

② one with whom a process begins, beginning fig.,

  • of person(s) (Genesis 49:3 Ῥουβὴν σὺ ἀρχὴ τέκνων μου; Deuteronomy 21:17)
  • of Christ Colossians 1:18
  • With τέλος of God or Christ Revelation 1:8 variant reading; 21:6; 22:13
    • (Hymn to Selene 35 ἀρχὴ καὶ τέλος εἶ:
    • Orphica p. 294,
    • likewise PGM 4, 2836; 13, 362; 687;
    • Philo, Planting 93;
    • Josephus Antiquities 8, 280;
    • others in Poimandres 270 and following
    • and compare SIG 1125, 7–11 Αἰών, … ἀρχὴν μεσότητα τέλος οὐκ ἔχων, expressed from the perspective of historical beginning).

Arndt, W., Danker, F. W., & Bauer, W. (2000). A Greek-English lexicon of the New Testament and other early Christian literature (3rd ed.) (138). Chicago: University of Chicago Press.

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Jack Caviness | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Apr 25 2011 2:49 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):
Looking at http://www.logos.com/comparison noticed BDAG is included in Scholar's Platinum and Portfolio packages.  HALOT is in Portfolio.

Thanks KS4J. I missed those. I only looked at the product page for the BDAG/HALOT Bundle. Had I looked at each individual resource, I would have seen which base package contained them. Embarrassed

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