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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 6:56 AM

Look for the icon called "Insert Media", close to the smiley!

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John Kaess | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 9:54 AM

I much prefer the newsgroups.  I find following threads in the web forum impossible.  I've used web forums on other sites, I still prefer newsgroups.

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David Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 10:06 AM

Well over 60 responses in this thread already - significantly more difficult than in newsgroups to get to those recently posted that I have not looked at yet .........

Forums are OK for very low volume groups, but not so well suited for this type of question and responses.....

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Pam Larson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 1:05 PM

I like reading the newsgroups. But since I switched to a free web-based e-mail account (using wireless to connect to my son's ISP) I haven't been able to figure out how to post to a newsgroup.  I used to connect through AOL and they dropped the ability to read newsgroups years ago.

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Lionel B Dyck | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 2:25 PM

I prefer newsgroups because of the ability to group messages into a thread.

Having said that I can live with a web forum.

I would prefer one that didn't show the entire post by default - I prefer to look at subjects and then view those i'm interested in.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 6:36 PM

See what happens with a zip file.

3201.Backup_Restore_XP_Vista.zip

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Wolfgang Schneider | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Jun 7 2009 10:00 PM

Hello Dave

Dave Hooton:
See what happens with a zip file.

3201.Backup_Restore_XP_Vista.zip

seems like normal behavior was invoked ... a click on the link opened the "open / save file" dialogue to let me save and or open the file locally

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Rob | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 8 2009 3:17 AM

Prefer: Newsgroups

Pros of Forums:

1. Mobility - I am often on the road using different computers. The forums will allow access from any computer. (This is possible with the newsgroups, but you end up downloaded all messages so it isn't a pracical possibility.)

2. Replies to email - It's nice that replies to my posts of interest are sent to my email

Cons of Forums:

1. Slow - My internet speed is fast, but the international internet connection from Asia slows down some sites and the Logos site always seems to be affected more than others. It takes about 15-30 seconds to load a page to read/write. This will greatly reduce my desire to check the forums.

2. Hard to view at a glance - It's hard to look at a glance and see what has happened since my last visit. This is partially due to my slow internet speed. I am used to scrolling through old topics and clicking on a select few (often from people I know tend to have meaningful comments). With the forums I need to open each separate topic.

3. Need to logon - Related to above. I need to logon and check the forum. The newsgroup I just clicked on the tab on thunderbird and it was there. I could check in seconds.

4. Replies to email - While the replies to posts being sent to email has its benefits, it could overwhelm my inbox, as where the newsgroup had it available and self contained. (I will likely set up an email filter to send it to a folder to put the forum emails together and remove this Con.)

 

Overall:

I will likely only come to the forums if I have a specific question/problem. By comparison, I looked at the newsgroups almost daily. I do like that I will be able to use the newsgroups on the road, but will rarely do that since I don't often have time when I am traveling anyhow. Even if speed were not an issue, I would probably rarely use the forums since it isn't right there on Thunderbird.

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Randall Hartman | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 8 2009 5:50 AM

That pretty well sums it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TCBlack | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 8 2009 8:23 AM

You're right Dr. Hartman, that sums it up.  All of the above manages to touch in one way or another upon my likes and dislikes of the NG's and the forums. 

Last thing I'll say is that the ONLY reason I have a newsreader installed any more is the Logos Newsgroups.  Lose them and switch to forums and at least I can remove that bit of software and quit dealing with it's idiosyncracies.

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 8 2009 8:51 AM

Well, I am trying my best but still find it hard to move through the posts I want to read. It looks much more unclear than in the newsgroups. I hope I will adjust to is eventually. I tried RSS. I don't think it is a solution to make it more clear. We will see.

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JRS | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 8 2009 11:04 AM

JUST Testing / playing around / experimenting  Movie

I much prefer the tree/thread format in the Newsgroups ... it makes following the various bunny trails easier,  but this is workable.   I certainly wouldn't want to have a meltdown over it and then have to be brought under control ...

 

Click here to play this video

 

Sound clips, too ....

 

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Peter Covert | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 7:10 AM

Bob, have you heard of Google wave?  I think this will be better than NG and forums.  Here are a couple of links: http://wave.google.com/ and http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html.

I believe it address all of the issues that people have mentioned here in this forum and in the newsgroups.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 9:08 AM

Peace to you, Dave!

*smile*

Was able to download your zip file.  Had it before, but thot I'd try it again!  Thanx once again for doing all that work for us ...

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 9:51 AM

Richard DeRuiter:

With breeches in the newsgroups recently, I'm concerned that eventually we may see a jpeg displayed that we ought not to see. At least with most NNTP readers, you have to choose to view the picture.

While I'm not interested in seeing untoward pictures posted either, I'm not greatly concerned -- after all, we are all adults and can simply ignore them.  Of course, the only way of keeping them from being thrown in your face every time you visit the page would be to delete them.  Is there such a facility in these fora?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 9:58 AM

Richard DeRuiter:
You can edit your own posts. That's pretty cool.

Really?  I hadn't noticed that and still don't see it.  Where is it?  If we're going to be stuck with this, I might as well learn to use it as well as possible.

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 10:37 AM

GeorgeSomsel:

Richard DeRuiter:
You can edit your own posts. That's pretty cool.

Really?  I hadn't noticed that and still don't see it.  Where is it?  If we're going to be stuck with this, I might as well learn to use it as well as possible.

You can edit your posts by clicking the "More" button next to the "Reply" button on your own posts. I notice that this ability disappears after a while (a day? after someone replies? some other criterion?).

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David Ladiges | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 10:42 AM

Editing posts is currently enabled for 10 hours after a post is made. This should give plenty of time to correct any typos or change formatting but doesn't let one go back and change a post days after it was made as that could really throw off the continuity of any following posts.

The 10 hour limit may change - I notice most of my typos in emails immediately after hitting send so a 10 minute edit window would be plenty for me!

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 11:50 AM

Pam Larson:

I like reading the newsgroups. But since I switched to a free web-based e-mail account (using wireless to connect to my son's ISP) I haven't been able to figure out how to post to a newsgroup.  I used to connect through AOL and they dropped the ability to read newsgroups years ago.

Not so very long ago I was using AOL on a dial-up connection and had no problem getting the Newsgroups.  Admitedly I launched Outlook Express to do so, but that has long been my practice with the Newsgroups.  I now use Windows Mail because I don't seem to have OE on Vista or I would still be using it.

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Michael Birney | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 9 2009 2:26 PM

I had really given up on the newsgroups, to me, it was a pain and outdated.   I am a active member of other forums, and I think it will be much easier to be active here now also. 

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