Upgrade from Logos 3 to Logos 3????

OK i have read quite a lot on this forum about the new upgrade to logos 4.

Now what i want to know because it does seem a bit confusing on the advertising for this new build, 

1. I have I bought the Top Logos 3 package, (Gold). Plus Many many more bits and pieces (I have the Macarthur package as well).

According to the upgrade calculator my upgrade cost for the new Gold is $161.50. I know it has a few more books than my original Gold edition. The extra books i wouldn't mind getting, but they are not necessary for me at the moment. so can i upgrade my existing package to Logos 4?? just like i did when they upgraded Logos 3?

2. over the past year i have bought over $3000.00 (thats US dollars, i live in New Zealand so it really cost me between 6000-6500.00 dollars) worth of logos material. so will all that be able to be used in the new logos 4??

3. Pre-pubs. I have read in a few posts, that the prepubs that are going to be in the packages will be taken off the pre-pub page. Is this true, and what will happen to all those who had pre ordered, Are you going to respect THEIR and MY trust in Logos and HONOR that prepub price, for those who DON"T want the Whole package???

This is my major concern. I currently have over $3000.00 US dollars worth of product on my pre-pub list, which would be total dis-loyalty if you did not give people the option of getting the pre-pubs at the price thay had pre ordered them at. 

 

 

Robert Pavich:

They are working day and night to convert and make it happen...

 

Robert,

Apparently they are allowed to sleep for two hours in shifts.

So while the company is operating 24 hours a day, the individual employees are only required to work 22 hours a day.

Thanks, i understand a little bit better. It's just trying to get my head around the upgrade side of things. and i have absolutely no problem in paying to upgrade, because Logos deserve to, with all the work they put into getting it right, but i am just wanting to know how the upgrade options work.

I have read 'crossgrade' somewhere in these forums as well, what does this mean? I would probably plan to get the Logos 4 Gold upgrade. so if i get the 'free engine upgrade' instead will that mean that as my current resources are upgraded to logos 4 will they be automatically 'updated' like previous versions??

with your answer to #3, how do you mean that i will be getting 150-200 extra resources. I have looked at the new comparison list and it says what is New to the package from the previous one (here is the link:http://www.logos.com/comparison) . I do understand that i will be getting extrra resources and i am not paying for the ones that i already have...Heres an example of what i am trying to find out... If i have something on pre-pub, and that product will be on the higher versions than Gold, will i still get what i have ordered on pre-pub?? 

I just want to say that i have NO problem in paying to upgrade, because LOGOS Deserve all the praise they can get for an AMAZING program. and i do hope that they have more than 2 Hours sleep ;-D.

thanks

Aaron

Aaron,

You can do the following:

Upgrade the "Engine" to V4. It costs nothing and you don't get any more resources or bells and whistles. Yes..your current resources all go to V4 rebuild.

Crossgrade: This effectively gives you the engine and the new resources being offered in v4 but at  "same level I was at" ...it's a minimal fee. You may already have these resources...or some of them.

The last option is to upgrade to another level entirely...this you have to weigh out...depending on what you want...what it costs...etc.

 

Not quite sure what you mean about the prepub...if you are asking that when you upgrade you get resource A, and that's what you've already ordered on prepub, then I BELIEVE that your prepubs are canceled...you might have to check on this.

Robert Pavich:

Not quite sure what you mean about the prepub...if you are asking that when you upgrade you get resource A, and that's what you've already ordered on prepub, then I BELIEVE that your prepubs are canceled...you might have to check on this.

I am not sure Robert that it is canceled automatically. I would say it is always good to compare how many resources are in the upgrade I really want and look their prices, whether in the prepub or in the regular list (most of them are not in the prepub.) I think you never can get better price than such occasion as now, with the crossgrade to the newer level of the same package. After buying of the crossgrade/upgrade, I would go to my prepub list and check. If it is still there, I would cancel the prepub order I already got in the upgrade/crossgrade.

I just upgraded to Platinum and I try to think about any book I got that was in the prepub, but I am not sure there is such one. It looks to me that what is in prepub, is in the process of production and is not available yet. So most of your prepubs will wait their production day anyways.

AaronStevens:

I have read 'crossgrade' somewhere in these forums as well, what does this mean? I would probably plan to get the Logos 4 Gold upgrade.

If you have Logos 3 Gold, then you would CROSSgrade to Logos 4 Gold.  This includes the extra books AND the new tools designed to work only in Logos 4 that are not usable in 3.

AaronStevens:

o if i get the 'free engine upgrade' instead will that mean that as my current resources are upgraded to logos 4 will they be automatically 'updated' like previous versions??

The FREE engine will read all your books except PBB books.  Those will take another 7 mo.  The FREE engine does not include several of the tools/resources that are avilable when you crosssgrade to Logos 4.

AaronStevens:

If i have something on pre-pub, and that product will be on the higher versions than Gold, will i still get what i have ordered on pre-pub?? 

Yes. you will still get your pre-pubs not included in the package. The point begin made earlier is that if you have already ordered something in pre-pub, your Crossgrade price to Gold 4 is adjusted to take into account your pre-pub orders IN that Gold package.

Blessings,

Joe

Thanks that helps, So then what is the difference between the logos4 Gold 'Upgrade and the Crossgrade?? if any?? except price ;-D

Also what are PBB?

AaronStevens:

Thanks that helps, So then what is the difference between the logos4 Gold 'Upgrade and the Crossgrade?? if any?? except price ;-D

Also what are PBB?

Crossgrade = same level (Gold - Gold) - But the Gold 4 has more in it than Gold 3 - resources that only work with 4 and new books.

Upgrade = go to the next level (Silver - Gold, Gold - Platinum) or beyond (several levels)

Minimal upgrade = just the engine and a few resources that only work with 4

Just engine = just the engine

 

In any event, by going to 4 all your resources in 3 are useable - many will be converted/optimized right now (= downloading and indexing) some will be updated as time goes on and will result in downloads and mini-indexing on an ongoing basis -- then once in a while you need to merge the mini-indexing into your main index -- but it works fine without)

What you don't get by just upgrading the engine is the resources that Logos has designed that only work with 4 (you have to pay for one of the crossgrades or upgrades).

PBB are personal books that people have developed and published that work with Logos 3. They are not able to be used in Logos 4, yet. But they will be later.

Chris

Aaron,

Someone else with more knowledge will chime in on this, but here's what I understand:

1. You would need to install L4 on all of your computers, and the new resources on just one.

2. You can then copy the new resources from one computer to another. This saves you from three big downloads. What I am not sure of is how to direct you to the folder where the new resources are on your computer. I use Vista and they are located at: C:\Users\(my name)\AppData\Local\Logos4\Data\0gwlhiqv.t5b\ResourceManager\Resources. In my situation I would copy that folder to the same location on another computer to save a separate download.

From that point the automatic synchronizing of L4 will keep your layouts, notes, clippings, etc. in sync from one computer to another. I think every time you add a new resource you'd have to add it three times, but I'm not sure.

Cool Thanks, that helps alot. I iwill upgrade As soon as i can. Thanks all.