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trahajje | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:10 PM

Is anyone else having problems with L4 crashing when trying to do things with "Copy Bible Verses"? It crashes on me sometimes when I'm trying to edit styles, and now it's doing it when I try to copy more than one verse.

John 5:17 = okay

John 5:17-18 = crash

The first problem is happening on two different computers. I don't know about the second problem since my other computer is at the office.

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EdB | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:27 PM

Yes, this copy to word, multiple verses feature is a must. At our ministry we use it all the time.

What would the short-cut key actually do?

Ed B

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Peter Nathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:14 PM

Yes if you go to Word Options/Advanced in Word 7, the Bible Smart tags are still listed as available.

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Peter Nathan | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:19 PM

And they invoke L3 on usage.

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Fred Greco | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:32 PM

Bob Pritchett:

I'm really sorry we missed how so many of you use this.

Bob, what is much more important is your (and Logos') willingness to listen and make modifications.  It is the most "un-Apple-like" thing of the new Logos 4! Wink

Bob Pritchett:
Microsoft's been trying to keep apps from cluttering the system tray area with lots of tiny icons. (Windows 7 tries to hide as many as possible.) We thought we were doing the right thing by getting ours out of there. But clearly many of you used this a lot. We'll look into bringing it back. (Or would a user-choosable, system-wide shortcut key be even better? Then you could, say, Ctrl+Alt+C and then type a reference?

I think that the shortcut key is better.  It works very well on that other Bible software.  Ctrl+Shift+B and viola!  Smart tags work pretty well in Word 2007, but not so well (for example) in PowerPoint 2007 (or Excel).  The universal shortkey would be excellent in all those situations.

Bob Pritchett:
And the multiple verses support? You want to be able to type "John 3:16; Eph 2:8-9" and have all three verses copied at once?

This is essential.

Thanks again, Bob!

 

Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

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Jonathan L. Perz | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 10 2009 10:36 AM

I am a long time user of LOGOS (back in the x486 computer days with the original version of your software) and a first time poster to these forums.

It is a huge dissappointment that the CBV feature of L3 did not get an upgrade, but instead, a downgrade. This is an absolutely essential time saver for me personally. Smart Tags are important to me too. Let me try and explain how I use these features to maybe help some and then, if I might, offer a suggested feature for all office documents that would be just phenomonal.

I use the CBV to copy a long list of verses, sometimes as many as 30 passages into what I call "Scripture Sheets" for sermons. Sometimes I hand these out, other times they are for my speedy reference while in the pulpit or in front of the class. Obviously, this requires the ability to copy and paste multiple verses at one time. It is a huge time saver, in contrast to going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. The only thing better would be not having to retype the list of verses from my sermon outline into the CBV to paste into my "Scripture Sheet", but more on that in a sec. Being able to copy and paste multiple verses in one shot is huge time saver and an essential feature for me.

Please revisit this feature and add to the features of the L3 version or simply implement the L3 feature back into the L4 app. Please do not remove any functionality from the L3 version when it is upgraded. Whether it is on the system tray or in the L4 app is secondary to me, as long as it is there, available and functioning.

The only improvement I would make is to allow a type of autolist feature based on Bible references in an office document. For instance, if I type a sermon outline with just the Bible reference at the end of my points, Smart Tags already identifies the references. It would be absolutely wonderful .... an incredible time saver ... to be able to click a button (macro) or link and have all of my cited Bible references in that particular document show up in some type of "Lookup List" in LOGOS 4 that I can cut and paste from (even multiple verses at a time) in a single swoop. Then I would not have to reenter the references into the CBV at all. They would be all looked up in a single list ready to go for me, formatted based on my current CBV settings. This would be amazing! I can see something like this working for what many above have suggested their use is too.

I have to say, I concur with the sentiments expressed by all here when I say thanks for a wonderful product! Thanks for listening to our feedback! AND thanks in advance for upgrading the CBV functionality in LOGOS 4 as soon as humanly possible. This is so essential that I think it deserves a hotfix, or update, all of its own at the nearest possible date, rather than waiting to deploy it with a bigger update. I hate that now I have to use both L3 and L4 until this feature is fixed. The L3 CBV is a huge, huge, huge feature for me and a monumental time saver.

Thanks for listening.

In Christ,
Jonathan

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Chris Funkhouser | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 1:45 PM

I am a new user to the forums.  I for one would like a convenient was to use copy bible verses, whether it opens on demand or stays in the task bar. But the multiple verse support is huge to me. I used to copy lists of scripture references out of other texts into the copy bible verse to print them out for easy access. Now I have to enter 30 or 40 verses in one at a time. I myself would like also to see greater compatibility with Wordperfect software which I still find to be easier and less problematic than Word.

 

thanks,

Chris

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 2:12 PM

Christopher Funkhouser:
I myself would like also to see greater compatibility with Wordperfect software which I still find to be easier and less problematic than Word.

Yes.

(From another die-hard WordPerfect user.)

Though I know there are some problems with this, as WP isn't fully unicode compliant, and there is nothing like 'smart tags' in WP. But it would be great to get the ability to address the CBV directly through a WP macro (as was possible in L3). This is by far preferred, since the macro can then 'clean-up' all the formatting junk that get's imported along with the text, while preserving the basic formatting.

 

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 2:28 PM

Well,

both members of the "Last surviving WordPerfect Users Club" have arrived...the meeting will now come to order....

Big Smile

Robert Pavich

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Ronald Quick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 2:51 PM

I'll add my voice in support of SmartTags.

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John Finkelde | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 5:09 PM

Crtl + Alt + C would work brilliantly for me

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John A. English | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:02 PM

I just tried tags in the latest version of Word and they are there, and working, but with v3 Logos.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Nov 15 2009 8:38 PM

I would ask that you do not only implement Smart Tags.  I write my sermons using Open Office - Smart Tags do not work in OO.  On the other hand, either of the two other methods mentioned in this thread (use of an icon in the system tray or a shortcut) to pull up Bible verses work well across a number of programs.

Floyd

Blessings,
Floyd

Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 16 2009 4:18 AM

Floyd Johnson:
I would ask that you do not only implement Smart Tags.  I write my sermons using Open Office - Smart Tags do not work in OO.  On the other hand, either of the two other methods mentioned in this thread (use of an icon in the system tray or a shortcut) to pull up Bible verses work well across a number of programs.

That is a very good point. Though I would really prefer the solution be an also/and rather then either/or.  I really use the smart tags :-)

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 10:39 AM

Philip Spitzer:

Floyd Johnson:
I would ask that you do not only implement Smart Tags.  I write my sermons using Open Office - Smart Tags do not work in OO.  On the other hand, either of the two other methods mentioned in this thread (use of an icon in the system tray or a shortcut) to pull up Bible verses work well across a number of programs.

That is a very good point. Though I would really prefer the solution be an also/and rather then either/or.  I really use the smart tags :-)

I thought that was what I was advocating for - if not, then let me add my voice to the "BOTH/AND" proposal - just because Smart Tags do not work for me, I know that many use them.  I think offering all three methods would be the best solution in order to meet the needs of many different users.

Blessings,

Floyd

Blessings,
Floyd

Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 10:48 AM

Floyd Johnson:
I would ask that you do not only implement Smart Tags.

The only had you covered. Sorry for missing it.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:03 AM

Philip Spitzer:

Floyd Johnson:
I would ask that you do not only implement Smart Tags.

The only had you covered. Sorry for missing it.

I wasn't even sure you had missed it - just wanted make sure we were on the same page. Smile

Blessings,
Floyd

Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

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Scott H. Clark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:10 AM

I've obviously been doing it the hard way in V3.  Could someone explain how "smart tags" work.  I use Word 2003 with V3 all the time and don't know what these are.  Thanks!!!

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John Fugh, Jr. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:35 AM

Scott Howard Clark:
I've obviously been doing it the hard way in V3.  Could someone explain how "smart tags" work.  I use Word 2003 with V3 all the time and don't know what these are.  Thanks!!!

 

http://www.logos.com/support/article/530

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Rich DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 17 2009 11:41 AM

Bob Pritchett:
We'll look into bringing it back. (Or would a user-choosable, system-wide shortcut key be even better? Then you could, say, Ctrl+Alt+C and then type a reference?

For me either way would work, particularly if you give us the ability to assign our our short-cut key combo. I think I have CTRL-ALT-C assigned already. Windows desktop short cuts can be assigned key-combos as well, and that defaults to CTRL-ALT-[key], so maybe CTRL-Shift-[key], or CTRL-ALT-Shift-[key] would get a more universal acceptance.

What would be really helpful is the ability to access the app via a Macro to insert verses directly into a document. As a WordPerfect user I've used Dale Durnel's WP macros with Libronix for years and found them to be a very helpful and quick way to insert the verse, strip away all the extraneous code (font & size changes, line height changes, etc.) that comes in, and leave the basic formatting in place.

Bob Pritchett:
And the multiple verses support? You want to be able to type "John 3:16; Eph 2:8-9" and have all three verses copied at once?

Yes. This is especially helpful in inserting extended verse lists into personal study documents.

Bob Pritchett:
Are you using them in older versions of Word, or are they still working well in the latest, etc.?

(I don't use Word, so I don't have an opinion on this.)

Thanks for your flexibility in considering our desires for the way we'd like Logos4 to work they way we've gotten used to working.

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