New Tutorial Video - Prioritising

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Posted: Fri, Jun 10 2011 8:35 AM

At long last, I'm glad to announce a new tutorial video on prioritising. As most of you know, prioritising is one of the easiest and most important customisations you'll make to your Logos installation.

In the video I first cover the basics: why prioritizing is so useful, and how to prioritize very easily. From there I suggest three rules to help you know which resources to prioritize, and three hints to make prioritization work in the way you want. We also cover prioritizing series and/or individual volumes. Finally we finish by looking at advanced prioritization, which allows us to restrict our prioritization to particular types, ranges or resources. If you want to skip the basics, start watching at 11:28.

I've used different software to create this video, so I've managed to increase the volume which I know had been a problem for some. The download is now also a .mp4 rather than a .mov, which may help Windows users without (I hope) causing a problem for Mac users. The download will be available within 30 minutes (I'm uploading it now).

http://www.logos4training.com/videos/prioritizing/

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 9:59 AM

Excellent video (and much needed)!

One thing you didn't mention that I use prioritization for is when I find a pop-up for a datatype is particularly slow.  If I put the resource that is indexed for that datatype high in the priority list, then the pop-ups for that datatype work much faster.  For example I prioritized the Lexham HDNT Glossary near the top because it made the LHDNT pop-ups so much better.

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Rosie Perera | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 1:55 PM

Great, Mark. Thanks again! I was missing getting new videos from you.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 2:02 PM

Mark or anyone else, are you willing to post your exact prioritization list that you really do use?  When it comes to the dictionaries and Encyclopedias I really don't know what I've got. (or is this not in good form?)

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 2:27 PM

Todd Phillips:
One thing you didn't mention that I use prioritization for is when I find a pop-up for a datatype is particularly slow.  If I put the resource that is indexed for that datatype high in the priority list, then the pop-ups for that datatype work much faster.

That shouldn't make a difference. There's only one resource with that datatype, so Logos should find it almost immediately using keylink.db. But as well as this, when the datatype isn't in the prioritisation list, Logos spends about 2 seconds looking through catalog.db, which makes no sense to me.

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 3:37 PM

Paul Newsome:
Mark or anyone else, are you willing to post your exact prioritization list that you really do use?  When it comes to the dictionaries and Encyclopedias I really don't know what I've got.

I feel I need to justify my prioritisation, which is perhaps more involved than I would recommend! It started out simpler than this, but as I use Logos, I will (for example) find a good dictionary or commentary set, and at that point it gets added into the prioritisation list. I didn't sit down one afternoon and plan all this.

In order I have:

  • Yellow: Version-specific Bibles (see this post)
  • Blue:English-language Bibles (I find the defaults work very well for me in Greek/Hebrew)
  • Green: Apocrypha
  • Orange: Bible Dictionaries
  • Purple: Commentaries
  • Grey: Greek lexicons
  • Red: Hebrew Lexicons
  • Yellow: Various non-Bible ancient texts
  • Purple: Devotionals
  • Green: Church Fathers
  • Blue: English Dictionaries

The ICC entry is wrong, the range got lost at some point and I didn't notice.

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 5:20 PM

Thanks Mark.. especially on the advanced prioritization.. I've seen it but never knew what it was used for.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 5:26 PM

Mark - 

Thanks for posting your prioritizing list. It was very informative to your thought process. I am glad to know about prioritizing the bibles twice. It would be annoying to see another translation from a cross link within a bible.

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Steve Shelton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 6:38 PM

Mark

Thanks for the video.  Very helpful!

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 7:24 PM

Thanks Mark for another great tutorial video! I have found myself thinking this week about the eventual, MUST HAVE, Mark Barnes Unofficial Logos Tutorial Video on PBB!

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Todd Phillips | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jun 10 2011 9:13 PM

Mark Barnes:

Todd Phillips:
One thing you didn't mention that I use prioritization for is when I find a pop-up for a datatype is particularly slow.  If I put the resource that is indexed for that datatype high in the priority list, then the pop-ups for that datatype work much faster.

That shouldn't make a difference. There's only one resource with that datatype, so Logos should find it almost immediately using keylink.db. But as well as this, when the datatype isn't in the prioritisation list, Logos spends about 2 seconds looking through catalog.db, which makes no sense to me.

Well, 1-2 seconds difference is what I 'm seeing now.  It was more significant last year when I originally added it.

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Charlene | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 1:05 AM

Thanks, Mark! Looking forward to watching it. Your videos have been so helpful. I have missed you doing them and was hoping that you would "start up again"!Smile

Charlene

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 3:09 AM

Mark this is awesome thank you!

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 3:48 AM

Dominick Sela:

Thanks Mark for another great tutorial video! I have found myself thinking this week about the eventual, MUST HAVE, Mark Barnes Unofficial Logos Tutorial Video on PBB!

The thought had crossed my mind, too...

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Fred Chapman | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 6:03 AM

Another great work Mark!

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David Carter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 7:00 AM

Thank you very much for the excellent video, the example of your own prioritization, and the explanation of why we need to prioritize our English Bibles twice.

Following your tutorials really makes the software and Bible study come to life for this amateur Smile

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 9:26 AM

Thank you, Mark.

Prioritizing is crucial.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jun 11 2011 10:45 AM

Mark Barnes:
The download is now also a .mp4 rather than a .mov, which may help Windows users without (I hope) causing a problem for Mac users.

Apple's QuickTime Player can play .mp4 file, which looks and sounds great. Big Smile

Observation: on Mac, dragging a commentary to Library priorities prioritizes series (appears command keyboard option to prioritize individual resource not implemented).  PC control key often becomes command key on Mac.  On Mac, control click is same as right click (for contextual pop-up menu).

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David Sloan | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 20 2014 11:57 AM

Mark Barnes:

Mark, this prioritization list is tremendously helpful, but I bet you have changed it greatly since 2011. Would you be willing to post an updated list?

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Mark Barnes | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Mar 20 2014 5:19 PM

David Sloan:
Mark, this prioritization list is tremendously helpful, but I bet you have changed it greatly since 2011. Would you be willing to post an updated list?

Hi David,

I don't think I've changed it much, actually. These are the changes I remember:

  1. Obviously, I've added some new resources, and moved around a few things as my tastes change.
  2. I'm taking advantage of custom series in a few places (so my GNT and Hebrew Bible will switch from one to the other, and to prioritize new and old ICC volumes separately, for example).
  3. I've added Greek and Hebrew texts. Not sure how they got missed last time.
  4. I've re-done the Pseudepigrapha and Septuagint.
  5. I moved the Apostolic Fathers section before the Commentaries section, so that the commentaries on the Fathers weren't prioritised above the Fathers themselves.
  6. I've added sections for the Mishnah/Talmud and Calvin's Institutes.
  7. I've added a few bits of advanced prioritisation to try and stop the glossaries in commentaries from ranking too highly.

The colour coding is:

  • Red: Version-specific Bibles (see this post)
  • Yellow: English-language Bibles
  • Green: Greek/Hebrew Bibles
  • Cyan: Septuagint/Apocrypha/Pseudepigrapha
  • Blue: Encyclopedias
  • Slate: Apostolic Fathers
  • Lilac: Commentaries
  • Lavender: Special Lexicons
  • Rose: Greek lexicons
  • Mustard: Hebrew lexicons
  • Yellow: Dead Sea Scrolls
  • Green: Josephus
  • Cyan: Philo
  • Purple: Mishnah/Talmud
  • Blue: Devotionals
  • Green: Calvin's Institutes
  • Orange: Dictionaries

The actual prioritisation is slightly arbitrary, particularly in the larger sections. Those at the top are definately more useful to me than those at the bottom, but whether the Baker NT commentary should be 43rd or 47th, who knows?!

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