Best Practices for Illlustrations

John Eggen
John Eggen Member Posts: 203 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

The question is really simple.  What are your best practices for cataloging illustrations in L4?  Whenever I stumble across an article, a book, or statistic I try to catalog it, but it's ad-hoc at best.  I have some in my Kindle Markups, some in just files, and some saved pages.  I would really like to put it all into L4 though and have it searchable and tagged.  Anyone out there using L4 to catalog illustrations?  If so, what works best for you?

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  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    I am not sure I completely understand what you are looking for; but based on my interpretation of your question, It sounds like clippings may be your solution.

    Please review the information on this link http://wiki.logos.com/Clippings Be sure to view the clippings tutorial videos linked on the top right of the wiki page. I would especially recommend the one by Mark Barnes 

  • John Eggen
    John Eggen Member Posts: 203 ✭✭

    Certainly helpful.  What I'm thinking of though is more about resources outside of Logos.  For example, today I read an article that talked about how watching "dumb" TV measurably changes our intelligence level.  I think this would be a good illustration to use some day when preaching about how what we choose to spend our time doing changes who we are.  (Like about not conforming to the world...)  In the past I've just copied and pasted an entire article into a note or a clipping and then kept the URL and date info for my own reference.  As I collect more though I wonder what other people do to catalog these full articles.  Do you create a clipping called Illustrations and then copy and paste everything from every article into one clippings file?  Do you create multiple clippings per category?  Do you tag them for reference.  (Like I might tag that one: TV, Society, Culture and another one Parenting, Dad, Mom, Father's Day, etc.)

    Or do you find other ways all together to collect these kind of outside news/article references for future use?  As a growing preaching I'm just looking for good advice and trying to leverage L4 as much as I can.

  • Fred Chapman
    Fred Chapman Member Posts: 5,899 ✭✭✭

    For gathering and external articles and information I think I would probably go with a note file

    Just brainstorming here because I don't do a lot of what your after...but

    Create a Notefile (Name it Illustrations or ????)

    The create a note and give it some sort of title (e.g. Story about Dumb Television Shows)

    You can then copy the link to that article into the note without having to import the entire thing.

    You might even think about creating notefiles with category names (inspirational, forgiveness, etc) and then type say the title of the article and make that title a hyperlink to the article.

    You could copy the entire text of the article, but that could result in a pretty large file over time.

    Kepp in mind that L4 will return search results in the My Content section of the basic search page for notes and clippings. I would play with both and see which works best for you.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    best practices for cataloging illustrations

    I've stopped... Each week provides more illustrations (old or new) than I can possibly use. So--though I used to--I no longer try to catalog & save them... In a way, I'm claiming that the reduction in effort is a best practice.[:D]

     

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


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  • David Thomas
    David Thomas Member Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭

    I tried databases from 2 other software publishers--both have now gone out of business. I am hoping when PBB is released and the new Sermon Addin plus a website is released that I will be able to do an export from the other programs and create some sort of database. I have found that the more I preach the less I rely on these stock databases and the more I integrate from my current reading and world events.

     

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  • Praiser
    Praiser Member Posts: 962 ✭✭

    What are your best practices for cataloging illustrations in L4?

     

    Hi John,

    I created a Alphabetical File cabinet in my Favorites:

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    You can have multiple individual folders and sub-folders anywhere you want within Favorites.

    I copy text from the web or other resources and add them to Notes which I then file away in my Favorites files.  You could create a subfolder for Illustrations and then more folders even under that subfolder for your various types of illustrations. I also create clipping files for my Logos resources. It is easy to add notes or clippings to Favorites without Favorites even being open by using Ctrl-D, then file them when you get a chance (they will automatically be added to the bottom of your Favorites section). If you have a note file or clipping open, you can drag and drop it into multiple folders within your Favorites.   Easy to find if you click on the file tab at the top of L4 and type one word that you would have used in the header of your individual file...all that have that will show up.  Clippings and notes can also be searched and included in your Searches and Passage Guides.

    I also added Favorites to my shortcut bar at the top of L4.

     EDIT: When I copy information from the web I create hyperlinks back to the website they were taken from.

  • John Eggen
    John Eggen Member Posts: 203 ✭✭

    Thanks for the suggestion.  I'm going to use the Notes and use my Favorites to organize and try that for a while.  As you've mentioned, I've found the best illustrations usually come from things I've read myself and are more recent than a database of illustrations.  Just trying to figure out how to find what I think I remember!

    Is there any way to tag notes with specific scriptures or themes or does L4 just search and include notes based on the actual content?

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭

    Is there any way to tag notes with specific scriptures or themes or does L4 just search and include notes based on the actual content?

    without having the time to test it I'll give my educated guess. I think Logos goes on content. There is no tagging for notes but you could be creative. At the end of the note put your tags in a format like this itg:love itg:peace  When you want to find a note with an illustration tag (itg) just search for itg:love or itg:peace and, in theory, that note will be returned.

  • Praiser
    Praiser Member Posts: 962 ✭✭

    Hi John,

    Halo Hound Phillip's idea to add tags to notes is clever, I will have to give that a try also.  Suggest also: that you add a note with an index of the tags you create so you can easily remember and make your new tagging match.

    Once indexed your notes will show up on scripture references under your my content section in your searches.  Any other words will have to be exact for them to show up. For example if you have Tyrannus in a note and want to find that note ... you will have to spell it out exactly as it appears... Tyran will not bring it up but Tyrannus will. So play around with it and discover what you can do.

    There is a place for Tags to be added to your clippings though.

  • John Eggen
    John Eggen Member Posts: 203 ✭✭

    I saw how to tag clippings, but clippings are only for content already in L4 right?  I haven't found a way to add a external content (like a web page) to a clipping.  Am I missing something or is that the intent of clippings?

  • Praiser
    Praiser Member Posts: 962 ✭✭


    I saw how to tag clippings, but clippings are only for content already in L4 right?  I haven't found a way to add a external content (like a web page) to a clipping.  Am I missing something or is that the intent of clippings?


     

    Correct that Clippings are for copying content from within your Logos resources.  To include text from outside resources, you will have to copy the text from the webpage and paste it into a note. You can then paste the web address in the same note or create a hyperlink to the original web page for reference.   Once the text from the webpage is in your note file and your note is indexed...your content will come up in searches.

  • BillS
    BillS Member Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭

    the more I preach the less I rely on these stock databases and the more I integrate from my current reading and world events.

    [Y]

     

    Grace & Peace,
    Bill


    MSI GF63 8RD, I-7 8850H, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, NVIDIA GTX 1050Max
    iPhone 12 Pro Max 512Gb
    iPad 9th Gen iOS 15.6, 256GB