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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Sep 15 2011 8:04 PM

Appears Logos 4.3 SR-3 could improve topical search.

For example, searching All Text in Entire Library for marriage customs includes topic section, but some Topic articles are not found when searching Heading Text and Large Text for marriage customs:

Wish "Heading Text" or "Large Text" would include Table of Content entries.  Looking at Libronix 3.0g Topic Browser, noticed 3 articles listed for marriage customs, with 2 included in Logos 4.3 SR-3 library search topic section.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Sep 16 2011 2:27 AM

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Appears Logos 4.3 SR-3 could improve topical search.

It appears that Logos still have a problem giving us a Topic Search.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 10:49 AM

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

... For example, searching All Text in Entire Library for marriage customs includes topic section, but some Topic articles are not found when searching Heading Text and Large Text for marriage customs:

We're still integrating resources into our concept index (the Logos Controlled Vocabulary). This is a time-consuming task which requires analyzing each article and determining where it matches our inventory of ~11k topics. The Zondervan Dictionary of Bible Themes is currently in process, which is why that article doesn't yet appear in the Topics section of Search.

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 3:51 PM

Sean Boisen:

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :):

... For example, searching All Text in Entire Library for marriage customs includes topic section, but some Topic articles are not found when searching Heading Text and Large Text for marriage customs:

We're still integrating resources into our concept index (the Logos Controlled Vocabulary). This is a time-consuming task which requires analyzing each article and determining where it matches our inventory of ~11k topics. The Zondervan Dictionary of Bible Themes is currently in process, which is why that article doesn't yet appear in the Topics section of Search.

Likewise, as far as searching Heading Text, we've updated the annotation of about 500 resources so far so their headings can be searched (i think this is really what Jim was looking for), though I don't believe all those updates have shipped yet. So you can expect continued improvement on heading search as well.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 3:59 PM

Sean Boisen:
we've updated the annotation of about 500 resources so far

My top 500 I assumeBig Smile [Okay, I'll grudgingly admit that my top 500 wouldn't have as big an impact across your client base as some others' top 500.Wink]

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 5:46 PM

Sean Boisen:
So you can expect continued improvement on heading search as well.

As one who has mourned the absence of the Topic Browser, I will say that Large Text and Heading searches do help so all you can produce that is searchable there is good. It is good to see more are being added to the list.

Still, having what amounts to a real (think back of the book) index for each resource that can be searched would be the ideal.

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Jim | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 6:15 AM

steve clark:
Try viewing this wiki article: Topic found in Basic Search

I just found this post and am really want to thank Steve for posting the link. I'm also very happy to have a topic search again. Thank you Steve and Logos.

 

Have a great day,
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Graeme Campbell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 4:56 PM

Hey Mark you can add my name to the list (voting with both hands rsised) i wrote on the forum before i seen this answer.

this was one of my first observations when i got L4. and i still use L3 mostly for this reason.

 

 

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 6:12 PM

Graeme Campbell:

Hey Mark you can add my name to the list (voting with both hands rsised) i wrote on the forum before i seen this answer.

this was one of my first observations when i got L4. and i still use L3 mostly for this reason.

Hi Graeme - glad you found this thread.  I tried to find it before posting, but my eyes could not catch it, thus the suggested search.  Welcome to the forums.

 

 

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Ben Lavicka | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 9:32 AM

I already purchased Logos 4 and am praying that Logos would allow me to search for key words in all the titles, for this is the best way to research my library with article that pertain to the topic I need to research

 

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 10:11 AM

Ben Lavicka:

I already purchased Logos 4 and am praying that Logos would allow me to search for key words in all the titles, for this is the best way to research my library with article that pertain to the topic I need to research

 

You can search for words in "Large Text" which I find very effect at heading searches. I think that is what you are looking for.

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:33 PM

Ben Lavicka:

I already purchased Logos 4 and am praying that Logos would allow me to search for key words in all the titles, for this is the best way to research my library with article that pertain to the topic I need to research

As an alternative to Basic Search in Entire Library for "Holy Spirit"

  • In the Command box type lookup holy spirit
  • This will give you an article in one of  your bible dictionaries.
  • Click the Parallel resources sets icon to see that in other dictionaries.

 

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Sean Boisen | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 11:21 PM

Ben Lavicka:

I already purchased Logos 4 and am praying that Logos would allow me to search for key words in all the titles, for this is the best way to research my library with article that pertain to the topic I need to research

Ben:

You can search in Headings, which i think is what you mean by "titles" (adding Large Text will give you more hits). Unfortunately, we have to change the markup of each individual book to enable heading search, so not all books have this feature yet. We're working through them as quickly as we can, but there are a lot of books to update.

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Gibson T. Garwo | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 7 2012 4:52 PM

yup

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 7 2012 9:52 PM

Hi Gibson and welcome,

From the source of your reply I understand you want better topic searching. It would help if you quoted the post to which you are responding - see http://wiki.logos.com/Using_the_Forum#Reply_post_editor

Suggestions are now made to http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/ and you will have 10 votes. You can vote for the existing suggestion at http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/510241-bring-back-topic-search-and-fuzzy-search but note that it is Planned, so you can vote for others.

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Danny Zacharias | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 17 2012 5:29 PM

I have come across this problem with dictionaries and encyclopedias. I don't understand how it is a "trade-off" to support certain "search fields" for some and not others. Why is the Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible have full search field support, but the black IVP bible dictionaries are not?  It is an extremely frustrating limitation.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 17 2012 5:55 PM

Danny Zacharias:
Why is the Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible have full search field support, but the black IVP bible dictionaries are not?  It is an extremely frustrating limitation.

Wonder about black IVP dictionary example(s) ?

Apologies: using Logos 4.5 Beta 14 (Release Candidate 1 download in progress), was unable to replicate:

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Danny Zacharias | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 17 2012 6:05 PM

Could it be that the documentation that I'm basing my assumption on is incorrect?  The dictionary of NT background says the search fields are footnote, large, and surface.  Eerdmans does all 8.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jan 17 2012 6:35 PM

Danny Zacharias:
 The dictionary of NT background says the search fields are footnote, large, and surface

Concur Dictionary of NT Background has searchable Large Text (using Logos 4.5 Release Candidate 1)::

If change search to Heading Text, then no results are found in black IVP Dictionaries.  When searching for topics, personally search Heading Text and Large Text.

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David Brewer | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jan 27 2012 12:57 PM

Sean, I have Logos  4.5 SR-2. There isn't anything like the "Topic Browser" in this version?

I want to be able to search all of my theological journals for a key word in the title of the journal article. How would I do that?

Thanks!

David

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