Looking for a Touch Screen Laptop/ Tablet.

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Fred H. | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011 6:43 AM

Good morning.  I'd like to get more mobile with Logos and was at first considering an Ipad.  However I'd really like to have windows 7 OS so I can have full-blown Logos and all my other programs at hand.  I'd like for it to be portable, powerful and have the screen flip or rotate flat and be touch.  I've looked at the HP touch laptop but the processing speed doesn't look to meet the recommened Logos requirements.  And some of the others...But I don't know if I'm comparing the processing speeds properly with the different chips out there.  Does anybody have one now that can recommend it or know of one that would work well.

The recommended requirements for running Logos 4 on a PC are:

  • Core 2 Duo 2 GHz

Thanks for your help.

Grace, peace and joy to you all,

Fred

In His Peace, Fred

 “We love because he first loved us.” (1 John 4:19, ESV)

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Michael Childs | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 20 2011 12:45 PM

There are going to be several that will run Logos 4.  The problem is how fast and how well.  The minimum requirements to run Logos are not going to run it fast.  Enough ram memory is also a big issue.

Also, there is the built in problem that Windows 7 is not primarily designed to be a "touch pad" operating system.  That causes limitations.

If you are wanting full blown Logos 4, then you are probably wanting it to run at a level that is easier achieved through a lap top than a pad computer.

Then again, I am no expert and may be completely wrong.

"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 20 2011 3:05 PM

Fred H.:

Good morning.  I'd like to get more mobile with Logos and was at first considering an Ipad.  However I'd really like to have windows 7 OS so I can have full-blown Logos and all my other programs at hand.  I'd like for it to be portable, powerful and have the screen flip or rotate flat and be touch.  I've looked at the HP touch laptop but the processing speed doesn't look to meet the recommened Logos requirements.  And some of the others...But I don't know if I'm comparing the processing speeds properly with the different chips out there.  Does anybody have one now that can recommend it or know of one that would work well.

The recommended requirements for running Logos 4 on a PC are:

  • Core 2 Duo 2 GHz

Thanks for your help.

Grace, peace and joy to you all,

Fred

 

I believe HP makes one that people said worked well with logos (not the web os one but the Windows 7 one). And Dell makes what you might call a convertable... it's a tablet the pops open to be the typical clam shell laptop. There is a gentleman on here who writes for a magazine who is the one, i believe, who had the HP. LOL I am full of helpful info am I not....

-dan

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Fred H. | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 20 2011 3:59 PM

I've been looking at the HP on on-line and what I can see you can't customize them anymore.  Here is the current specs on the "ready to ship" model.

OPERATING SYSTEM

 

• Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit (1)

 

 

 

 

 

PROCESSOR

 

• Intel® Core™ i3-380UM Processor (2c) (3)

PROCESSOR SPEED

 

• 1.33GHz (4)

PROCESSOR CACHE

 

• 3MB L3 Cache

MEMORY

 

• 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 DIMM)

• Max supported = 8GB

V

 

IDEO GRAPHICS • Intel® HD Graphics with up to 1695MB total graphics memory (6)

The part that scares me is the 1.33 GHz but I wonder if the Core i3 makes up for it????  The one Dell makes is not powerfull enough (that's the one that the screen rotates) and the others they make would be but are over 3K.  Anybody have any thoughts on the Core i3 processor?

Thanks again, Fred

 

In His Peace, Fred

 “We love because he first loved us.” (1 John 4:19, ESV)

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Dan Francis | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 20 2011 4:12 PM

  • Inspiron duo Convertable Tablet

    Processor
  • Intel® Atom® Dual Core Processor N550 (1.5GHz, 512K L2 Cache)

Operating System

  • Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-Bit

Memory

  • 2GB DDR3 SDRAM

Chipset

  • Intel® NM10 Express Chipset

Video Card

  • Intel NM10 Express Video

Display

    • 10.1 inch display (1366x768)

Audio and Speakers

  • 2 X 1W speakers for total of 2W standard

Hard Drive

  • Up to 320GB SATA hard drive (7200RPM)

Power

  • 29Whr 4 cell battery, captive factory replaceable
    Up to 3 hours and 57 minutes of battery life

 

So not sure if that is any better..... I do know Apple is rumored to be preparing a tablet macbook....not sure if it will be one of the new airs released next month or not....

 

-Dan

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David Thomas | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Jun 20 2011 5:33 PM

I bought a Netbook from Toshiba a year ago (NB305-N410) with Win7 starter. I replaced the original 1 GB with a 2 GB ram stick. I am running full L4. It takes a while to load and switching layouts is pretty slow. But I am able to run Several linked translations and Original language tools (BDAG, Louw-Nida, etc.) An 11 hour battery plus full access to Microsoft Office and Logos4. Here is a screenshot of one of my layouts.

This is not my main computer for working in Logos, but it does allow me to work from the Hammock in the backyard connected to my wifi network.

Making Disciples!  Logos Ecosystem = Logos8 on Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (Win10), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone, [deprecated] Windows App, Proclaim, Faithlife.com, FaithlifeTV via Connect subscription.

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vandevsr | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 21 2011 4:46 AM

One up from a netbook is the Asus Eee Slate.  In Canada you can find them at BestBuy.  Model EP121.  It is a Tablet running Win 7 Home Edition and has a decent processor (i5-470uM).  Downside: battery life.  I tried one out on display, and I figured touch-screen and Win 7 aren't good buddies yet.

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 21 2011 6:54 AM

I purchased this a year ago from Sams Club

     http://www.shopping.hp.com/store/product/product_detail/XG892UA%2523ABA?

- runs LOGOS.  I do not have power machine to compare it to, but I am happy with it.

Blessings,
Floyd

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Fred H. | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 21 2011 7:06 AM

Thanks for all the input.  Floyd that is the one I'm looking at.  My understanding is that these have had different specs in the past (they could be customized).  Do you know if your processor is the Core i3 that they have in the current model?

And that you Steve...i've wondered about touch screen with windows 7. Floyd can you add to this part of the discussion?  How does this work for you with the HP?

Thanks again, Fred

In His Peace, Fred

 “We love because he first loved us.” (1 John 4:19, ESV)

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 21 2011 7:24 AM

Fred H.:

Thanks for all the input.  Floyd that is the one I'm looking at.  My understanding is that these have had different specs in the past (they could be customized).  Do you know if your processor is the Core i3 that they have in the current model?

And that you Steve...i've wondered about touch screen with windows 7. Floyd can you add to this part of the discussion?  How does this work for you with the HP?

Thanks again, Fred

I will need to check on the CPU on my machine - I doubt if it is a Core i3, but do not know for sure.  I am typing this on a small netbook (that also running LOGOS, albeit a bit slower) - I will be at the tablet later today. 

As for touch, it does not have the resolution of a mouse; but because this model also is a pen input device, this is not a huge problem.  I will use touch input to manipulate the screen (i.e. not the program).  To give you an idea of the granularity of touch input, I occasionally use touch to play mahjong and/or solitare with no problems.

 

Blessings,
Floyd

Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

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Floyd Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Jun 21 2011 10:13 AM

A followup  to my earlier post - my TouchSmart tm2 computer uses a U7300 CPU - this is a 64 bit 2 core model.  Here are the specs:

            http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=42791&code=u7300

Feel free to ask more questions; if I can answer, I will.

Blessings,
Floyd

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Fred H. | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 22 2011 7:06 PM

Boy after reading some of the issues on the I-Pad vs Android thread I'm really leaning towards a Tablet Pc.  Don't have to worry about any of the money grubbers stopping the ebooks or non-apple apps or whatever.

I'll keep looking and researching.  Thank you all for your input.

Grace and peace to you all, Fred

In His Peace, Fred

 “We love because he first loved us.” (1 John 4:19, ESV)

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Ward Walker | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jun 22 2011 7:26 PM

Fred H.:

I've been looking at the HP on on-line and what I can see you can't customize them anymore.  ...

I've been using the HP tm2t (i5) for over a year--I bought it to run Logos 4.  I love it, although the battery is beginning to fade and I need to replace it.  It looks like HP is preparing to stop selling these though--hence only the i3's are still available.  I suspect the i3 wouldn't be powerful enough to keep Power Lookup and Information or Cited By tools open while cranking through a large library.  Even with the i5, I normally close those tools so I can get enough responsiveness as I page through resources.  You might be able to pick a reconditioned one up from HP's outlet store on their website--it should tide you over until Logos releases their Android version and opens up an entirely new class of highly mobile Bible study devices in the future.

 

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