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Paul N | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Jul 14 2011 9:43 AM

I was curious to know how the users carry their libraries on their iPad. Does making every book offline accessible work out or maybe only your commentary sets and a couple of useful trade books? I'm interested in knowing how to take advantage of the iPad's larger screen for reading while acknowledging it's finite battery when performing searches. Has anyone struck a good balance with their library and Logos4iPad's capabilities?

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 9:58 AM

It seemed too much like hard work for me to try and download every book. I just have my preferred bibles, the commentaries that I am reading at the moment, the commentaries that I have found particularly useful in the past, books I am reading at the moment, and my most frequently used reference works.

It would be heartbreaking to download everything and then have to delete and reinstall the app.

The need to be online in order to search also limits the benefits of having the whole library available offline.

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Bill Anderson | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 9:59 AM

Hi Paul,

I undertook the painstaking process of downloading each book in my library. So now I have them on my iPad 24/7.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 10:03 AM

Bill Anderson:

Hi Paul,

I undertook the painstaking process of downloading each book in my library. So now I have them on my iPad 24/7.

 

Lol Bill, how long do your resource searches take and does it seem to take toll on the battery?

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 10:06 AM

Jonathan Pitts:

...and my most frequently used reference works.

 

Hey Jonathan, may I ask which reference works you keep?

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Jonathan Pitts | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 11:05 AM

Paul Newsome:

Hey Jonathan, may I ask which reference works you keep?

AYBD, NBD

EDNT, BDAG, DBL, TDNT

All the non-canonical literature often referred to from commentaries: Mishnah, Talmud, apostolic fathers, Josephus, Philo, apocrypha, pseudepigrapha, Nag Hammadi library, gnostic scriptures

In Logos 4 I usually have a cleanup of my layout when I start a new book of the Bible. I then leave open the reference works that I use or that are referred to by commentaries. Having nearly reached the end of Matthew, all of the above are open. That is how I decided what I needed on the iPad. When I move to the Old Testament again, I expect I will add a few other resources.

I actually don't use the Logos iPad app a great deal. When at home, and anywhere else I have wifi, I have started using the LogMeIn Ignition app to allow me to access my computer remotely from the iPad. I can therefore use Logos 4 anywhere in the house, places that I don't want to take the computer. On train journeys I tend to take my laptop, as Logos 4 is certainly much easier to use than the iPad app. The iPad app is therefore my reserve for places where it would not be convenient to take the laptop out.

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PL | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 12:41 PM

I bit the bullet and downloaded the majority of my books for offline use.  It took a few hours one evening, while sitting there watching TV etc.  Well worth the time.

I did exclude resources I wouldn't be using in the foreseeable future, e.g. Greek/Hebrew-only resources (I don't know the original languages), resources in old English or foreign languages that I can't understand, and resources that are exclusively collections of images (too large and I rarely use them at all).

I downloaded most of the modern English Bible translations, all my commentary sets, and any other books for devotional or leisurely reading (e.g. Max Lucado's books, books on leadership and ministry, etc).

Hope this helps.

Peter

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Rev. Kelly Todd | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 14 2011 8:37 PM

Paul, I have found that I use about 30 of my books 99% of the time.  So I only have those 30 downloaded.   I cant see downloading the other 1700 books for the once or twice a year that I would use them... it is personal thing that has to do with time and effort!... especially if I had to re-install the app and all of my books... just seems a big waste of my time.  When I get a book that I want to read, I download it, then dump it when I am done.  Hope that this helps.  

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:12 AM

ok those who have downloaded your entire libraries are brave people! Wink

For now I'm set on this list:

Bibles:
ESV, NKJV, KJV, HCSB, NLT, NET, RSV, NASB,

Reference:
BDAG, BDB, Louw-Nida, GHCLOT (Apparently HALOT is not available), DBL Hebrew, DBL Greek, Strong's Lexicon, New Strong's Dictionary of Hebrew and Greek words, Synopsis of the OT, Newberry's Interlinear GNT.

Most on the reference list seem to come up frequently when using the Bible Word Study and the Passage Guide

Commentary Sets:
NICOT/NT, WBC, NIGTC, Pillar, BECNT, TCOT/NT, EBC, NAC

I see the iPad much like Jonathan and Kelly see it.  Something to sustain me if I'm away from the desktop and the laptop just won't work and to be used with resources I'm already quite familiar with.

Thanks for everyone's expertise and suggestions!

[EDIT] for Jerry's interlinear suggestion

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:28 AM

Paul, you may find the Newberry interlinear handy for NT Greek offline study.

"For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"      Wiki Table of Contents

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:33 AM

Jerry, you bring up a good point.  I was thinking about how the iPad would present interlinears like the desktop version can... and the fact is it can't.

I'll add this one to the list above

Thanks!

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Andy | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:37 AM

Jonathan Pitts:

I actually don't use the Logos iPad app a great deal. When at home, and anywhere else I have wifi, I have started using the LogMeIn Ignition app to allow me to access my computer remotely from the iPad. I can therefore use Logos 4 anywhere in the house, places that I don't want to take the computer. On train journeys I tend to take my laptop, as Logos 4 is certainly much easier to use than the iPad app. The iPad app is therefore my reserve for places where it would not be convenient to take the laptop out.

I've been using Splashtop for the last month or so as a cheaper alternative to LogMeIn (it is free in the UK). It works brilliantly around the house, but is a little glitchy over 3G.

I have downloaded most of my 'most used' reference stuff, collections, a couple of commentaries for each book of the Bible and the stuff on my 'must read over the coming couple of months'... 

I am really thankful for the Logos app. Being able to read on the go has increased the value of my library considerably.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:43 AM

Andy Evans:
I've been using Splashtop for the last month or so as a cheaper alternative to LogMeIn

I picked this app up as well.  I think it's a third of the price of LogMeln in the US.  The only gripe I have with it is that it becomes difficult to operate if you are running multiple monitors on your desktop, (all windows need to open on the main screen or you can't drag them over) and it resizes all the windows to fit the iPad screen (just have to re-resize them when I get back)

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Stephen | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 15 2011 9:46 AM

I use Wyse PocketCloud. They have a free version that let's you connect to 1 computer remotely. It can use a google account for logging in so it makes set up very easy.

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David Young | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 23 2012 6:43 PM

Can you highlight and store notes in the offline Bible on the ipad?  And is the offline Bible the same as the online Bible which is sync'ed up on all platforms?  

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 23 2012 7:28 PM

Welcome to the forums, David!

David Young:
Can you highlight and store notes in the offline Bible on the ipad?

Highlighting and notes are available offline.

David Young:
And is the offline Bible the same as the online Bible which is sync'ed up on all platforms?  

I am not sure what you mean. Are you asking if you can sync your highlights & notes? (Yes, but you have to be online of course). Are you asking if your preferred Bible can be viewed offline? (If it is mobile enabled, yes). 

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Andrew Perez | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Mar 23 2012 7:46 PM

I download the books offline as I need them. I also have a different set of book in my Vyrso app, such as devotionals and some of the other books offered by Vyrso.

 

God Bless 

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C. Michael Nath | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2012 3:09 PM

I have started the tedious process of downloading the books for the Platinum package and I have to say... Logos, please add a download all button to the app... please!  

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Mar 24 2012 3:30 PM

There is a download all button in 2.0.2.

Open the library, scroll to the very top and on the left you see a count of resources, on the right a download button.

If you filter your library you can just download a selection.

 

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dency hutchings | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Mar 25 2012 11:57 AM

Thanks Graham,

     And congratulations i appreciate your posts.  I just downloaded the UBS commentary by (i am sure there is a shorter way) using:

(a handbook AND ubs) without the parenthesis.  Again thanks for the post.

 

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