Legends of the Jews

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GeoPappas | Forum Activity | Posted: Wed, Jul 27 2011 5:27 PM

Anyone have any comments on "Legends of the Jews" (http://www.logos.com/product/3000/legends-of-the-jews)?

 

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Jul 27 2011 6:51 PM

It is a fun resource that I've had in dead tree form for years. Its basically a collection of story type midrash (aggadah) from the Misnah. Its an older translation but is quite readable. If you have the Misnah it is less important but it is still an easy way of finding the stories by major character.

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Graham Owen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 28 2011 2:25 AM

GeoPappas:
comments on "Legends of the Jews"

I find this a useful resource. It is particularly useful for locating some of the extra information that has become attached to the Old Testament narratives. 

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Jul 28 2011 4:20 AM

MJ. Smith:

It is a fun resource that I've had in dead tree form for years. Its basically a collection of story type midrash (aggadah) from the Misnah. Its an older translation but is quite readable. If you have the Misnah it is less important but it is still an easy way of finding the stories by major character.

It isn't precisely "an older translation" since Ginzberg not only translated the material but created it as well by selecting material from various sources.  I suspect that a bit of "artistic license" comes into play as well.  It's quite an interesting collection. 

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Rod | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Jul 29 2011 7:18 AM

If you have a Kindle or the Kindle for PC software, this appears to be a free download from Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/Legends-Jews-1-ebook/dp/B004TPP00C/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1311948939&sr=1-1

 

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Genghis | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 4:53 PM

Also available on Project Gutenberg in .txt, .mobi and .epub formats

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 5:35 PM

As far as I know, it's the most wide-ranging collection of aggadic materials we have available on Logos.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 6:21 PM

However, Ginzberg is a sliver of the basics we should have:

  1. Zev Vilnay's The Sacred Land trilogy (Legends of Jerusalem; Legends of Judea and Samaria; Legends of Galilee, Jordon and Sinai)  I've only been asking for this basic resource for a decade or more.
  2. Howard Schwartz' Tree of Souls: The Mythology of Judaism
  3. Robert Grave's Hebrew Myths: The Book of Genesis

And that is only the oldies but goodies. But Logos has rather slim pickings of several criticism methods - folklore/mythology being only one of them.

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mab | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 9:32 PM

This is mostly for illustrative use for whatever underlying Old Testament reference. My thought is you could just retell something in it in an updated form more relevant to your church if that suits your purpose. Some stories don't age well in their original format.

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Nick Steffen | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 10:00 PM

MJ. Smith:

However, Ginzberg is a sliver of the basics we should have:

  1. Zev Vilnay's The Sacred Land trilogy (Legends of Jerusalem; Legends of Judea and Samaria; Legends of Galilee, Jordon and Sinai)  I've only been asking for this basic resource for a decade or more.
  2. Howard Schwartz' Tree of Souls: The Mythology of Judaism
  3. Robert Grave's Hebrew Myths: The Book of Genesis

And that is only the oldies but goodies. But Logos has rather slim pickings of several criticism methods - folklore/mythology being only one of them.

So true. One of several areas that could benefit from attention.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, May 28 2020 11:35 PM

mab:
This is mostly for illustrative use for whatever underlying Old Testament reference.

I use them more like other "ancient near eastern" materials - as another piece of information helping me understand better the culture from which Scripture comes, the background information the hearers of the word would have in their minds, the reception history as embedded in the changes of the accompanying oral/written literature.I think of them as an oral history developing alongside the written history, a supplement not a retelling.

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