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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 5:14 AM

Would you think that the following two statements are true?

1.  These resources are coming out on prepub and so will not immediately be available.

2.  They will remain available free long after they are released so that in a year lets say you could download them.

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Dominick Sela | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 6:30 AM

Jerry M:

Would you think that the following two statements are true?

1.  These resources are coming out on prepub and so will not immediately be available.

2.  They will remain available free long after they are released so that in a year lets say you could download them.

I would say

1. Yes - although they could be coming out very quickly, as there seemed to be some imminence in Dan's messages. I suspect these are works that won't require a lot of manual tagging etc., otherwise 3000+ resource would be a job that dwarfed every other project with resources that Logos has going on, and I doubt they would do that right now.

2. Yes- while there are times that Logos pulls a resource(s), it's usually because their license deal expires or is canceled.  There's frankly no other typical reason to pull a resource once they have done all the work. Some resources may not be upgraded if some new data format requires manual work on an old/slow-selling resource, but that doesn't apply here.  Now they could charge something once it's out of PrePub, but I haven't seen anything that mentions that - this seems like something they want to give away for free to gain visibility and for marketing of their product. That's why Dan as been urging people to talk it up once they get the resources.

 

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Tes | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 6:31 AM

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 7:04 AM

I have to walk lightly to keep details hush-hush for a few more hours, But:

Do you think it is possible the 3000+ titles will be released as Logos 4 PBBs? I have not kept up with the PBB beta talk so the answer may already be obvious.   (Highlighting in the quote was added by me.)

Dominick Sela:

1. Yes - although they could be coming out very quickly, as there seemed to be some imminence in Dan's messages. I suspect these are works that won't require a lot of manual tagging etc., otherwise 3000+ resource would be a job that dwarfed every other project with resources that Logos has going on, and I doubt they would do that right now.

2. Yes- while there are times that Logos pulls a resource(s), it's usually because their license deal expires or is canceled.  There's frankly no other typical reason to pull a resource once they have done all the work. Some resources may not be upgraded if some new data format requires manual work on an old/slow-selling resource, but that doesn't apply here.  Now they could charge something once it's out of PrePub, but I haven't seen anything that mentions that - this seems like something they want to give away for free to gain visibility and for marketing of their product. That's why Dan as been urging people to talk it up once they get the resources.

 

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 7:21 AM

Super Tramp:
Do you think it is possible the 3000+ titles will be released as Logos 4 PBBs? I have not kept up with the PBB beta talk so the answer may already be obvious.  

No, not likely at all.

If, this thing is going through the Pre-pub channel that means a zero dollar order and then a tiered download schedule. This doesn't fit the PB model at all. Besides, it would be a pain in the rear to have to manually compile 3000 resources, talk about a way to annoy your customers and create bad publicity.

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Michael Sullivan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 8:07 AM

I have not tweeted Dan, but I am just curious if the big release has anything do with this website that links you to Logos when you try to sign up?

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 8:17 AM

Kevin Becker:
manually compile 3000 resources,

I was assuming they had an automated way to compile batches. And depending on how much tagging and what form the source is in, I could imagine the development team would keep a secret for the last few months; with a little help:


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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 11:29 AM

Michael Sullivan:
I have not tweeted Dan, but I am just curious if the big release has anything do with this website that links you to Logos when you try to sign up?

No, this link is to a former product not a forthcoming product.

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MJ. Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 11:36 AM

Jerry M:

Would you think that the following two statements are true?

1.  These resources are coming out on prepub and so will not immediately be available.

2.  They will remain available free long after they are released so that in a year lets say you could download them.

There is no particular reason for them to go through Prepub unless Logos needs to send them through prepub to get the downloads to occur in the order in which they were placed.

I would expect them to remain free for the foreseeable future.

There no longer is a distinction between the PB model and the Logos resource model except, of course, as a PB builder I can be sloppier than I would accept from Logos.Wink

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Glenn F | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 12:53 PM

Cam someone let me into the club please.

 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:07 PM

Glenn F:
Cam someone let me into the club please.

Done. Check your email Glenn. Then start watching the Pre-Pub page:  http://www.logos.com/products/search?Status=Pre-Pub

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Glenn F | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:13 PM

Thank you, appreciate it Super Tramp

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Tristan | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:21 PM

Would someone please email me?  logos AT kendall DOT cc

Thank you,
Tristan

 

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:30 PM

Tristan Kendall:
Would someone please email me?

Done. Check your email, Tristan.

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Joseph Najera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:53 PM

I'd like so more info: jnajera78 AT rgv.rr DOT com

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Matthew C Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:59 PM

Joseph Najera:
I'd like so more info

Done. Check your email.  Email

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Larrie Johnson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 1:59 PM

Hey, I don't do Twitter; would someone please send info to . Thank you

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Joseph Najera | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 2:01 PM

Thanks, Super Tramp.  Much appreciated!

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Keith Jones | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 2:02 PM

Neither do I. Could someone please send me this also?

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T Gerold Castle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 8 2011 2:05 PM

Well I certainly would like to be included :P

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