Printing in L 4.3

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Teofil Harii | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011 3:11 PM

Taking advantage of the new features in the 4.3 ed, I'm uploading my sermons via the Personal Books option, in order to create a catalogue of them and manage them from here, however when I try to print my uploaded sermon, it says that function is not available, the only option is export. Can anyone help?

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Aug 15 2011 5:28 PM

Teofil,

Welcome to the forums. Right now all my Personal Books do not support printing. I don't recall any discussion about this issue, but perhaps someone who knows why and what we can anticipate in the future will be able to chime in on this thread.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 12:00 AM

Hi

I have just tried this and printed a portion of one of my Personal Books just like any other Logos resource.

Mine was a "Monograph", what types were you trying to print? 

(Don't know if that is relevant, just trying to determine any differences!)

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 12:12 AM

Welcome Teofil!

Teofil Harii:
when I try to print my uploaded sermon, it says that function is not available, the only option is export.

I just tested this with a quite complex resource. From what I can see so far: you may select as much text as you want (including pictures) in the resource and subsequently invoke the Print/Export feature, and all will work well with printing from the option "selected text" (I tested this with having FreePDF print a 89 pages document very nicely) - however: the option "this section" will show the error message you referred to - and once there, Logos is stuck and won't allow you to go back to printing "selected text".

However, after I took out all pictures from the *.docx resource file and compiled again, everything works fine:

In my preliminary understanding, this is a bug and your posting title should probably read better "BUG: Printing PB with pictures in it in L4.3" Hopefully, this is addressed as part of the bugfixing concerning picture-handling in PB that Logos has announced for the next release.

Please try whether the workaround printing "selected text" is working for you and come back to us.

Hope this helps,

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 12:15 AM

Graham Criddle:

I have just tried this and printed a portion of one of my Personal Books just like any other Logos resource.

Mine was a "Monograph", what types were you trying to print? 

Hi Graham,

try printing a portion of a PB with a picture in it, whether it works. Btw, I tested with an English language  "Monograph" with footnotes and headers in it.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 12:36 AM

Hi Mick

NewbieMick:
try printing a portion of a PB with a picture in it, whether it works

Yes it works fine here!

This printed successfully

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 1:41 AM

Graham Criddle:

NewbieMick:
try printing a portion of a PB with a picture in it, whether it works

Yes it works fine here!

This is a weird bug. I tried to re-create it and found that I now could print from my picture-including PB as well. I built another book from the exact same file, tried Print/Export: error message (indexing was completed). Selected a word in the text: still error message. Selected some paragraphs: now it works.

It seems, Logos doesnt know how to fill the "use this sections" boxes. By selecting once enough text to give Logos a filled section box, it works fine. By using the workaround of selecting all text (which is a pain in a longer resource), I  "initialized" my first test file to printing.

I must have done the same inadvertently in my second test: I am able to reproduce the error as well in a new build from my picture-less file. Thus, I retract my initial guess that pictures are the culprit. The bug seems to concern first time initialization of the section boxes.

Graham, could you test this with your file?

Steps to reproduce print initialization bug:

  • Build a PB from a "complex" file (i.e. including varoius header levels)
  • without selecting any text, try print/export: should produce the error message as shown above
  • with selecting text including more than one section of the document structure: should work

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 1:45 AM

Mark Smith:
Right now all my Personal Books do not support printing.

Mark,

would you try the text-selection workaround? If I see this correct, it should make the PBs printable (English language monographs at least)

Hopefully we get this nailed down.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 2:20 AM

Hi Mick

NewbieMick:
Build a PB from a "complex" file (i.e. including varoius header levels)

I did this into a new book

NewbieMick:
without selecting any text, try print/export: should produce the error message as shown above

It worked fine for me - it opened the Print/Export dialog box with the "Use this sections" box selected and the first section of text automatically selected.

My .docx document is structured with a "Heading 1" field followed by a small amount of text and then five "Heading 2 fields" each of which precede text

NewbieMick:
with selecting text including more than one section of the document structure: should work

This worked fine with the selection in the Print/Dialog box automatically changing from "Use these sections" to "Use selected text"

So, sorry, but I can't reproduce the problem following the steps you outline.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 3:06 AM

Graham Criddle:
So, sorry, but I can't reproduce the problem following the steps you outline.

Ah - but your additional information helped me to go forward.

Graham Criddle:
My .docx document is structured with a "Heading 1" field followed by a small amount of text and then five "Heading 2 fields" each of which precede text

My nonworking document had normal text (document name, author, cover picture) before the first "Heading 1" line - which by the way means you can only print the full document if you select it - or print the first page thus and the rest from "use sections". I already wondered whether a third button "print whole PB" was missing, since this is not an uncommon situation.

I could reproduce the non-error behaviour by making the first line of text into "Heading 1".

I'd expect you can see the error if you insert normal text before the first heading and then build a PB.

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 3:33 AM

Hi Mick

NewbieMick:
I'd expect you can see the error if you insert normal text before the first heading and then build a PB.

Correct!

If I have normal text before the first heading then I can reproduce the problem as you outlined above.

Well done on tracking this down!

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 3:45 AM

Hi Graham,

Graham Criddle:

Correct!

If I have normal text before the first heading then I can reproduce the problem as you outlined above.

Well done on tracking this down!

Yes, it seems we got it. I played a bit in the meantime and found that it's no problem if there are no Heading styles used at all in the document (Logos seems to discover some meaningful sections neverheless) or if the first line is a Heading style other than 1: both cases do well.

Thus, the "print sections initializion bug" seems to occur in documents that use Heading styles, but where the first line(s) is not a Heading. 

Maybe Mark, Teofil or someone else with printing problems can verify, as this might be a problem catching a number of users unaware. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 4:06 AM

NewbieMick:
Thus, the "print sections initializion bug" seems to occur in documents that use Heading styles, but where the first line(s) is not a Heading. 

Reposted in Beta Forum as "BUG...." for Logos to trace: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/36938/276958.aspx#276958

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Jerry M | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 4:22 AM

As long as we are on this topic, if I want to build a book patterned after the way Logos does it, they put the title at the top of the document and give the first line of the title as the first header.  Then they somehow rename that first line in the side bar table of contents as Title Page in bold letters.  Does anyone know how to edit the names in the table of contents?

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 4:32 AM

Jerry M:
the way Logos does it, they put the title at the top of the document and give the first line of the title as the first header.  Then they somehow rename that first line in the side bar table of contents as Title Page in bold letters.  Does anyone know how to edit the names in the table of contents?

I wanted to ask for a screenshot to better understand yourt point, but then did one myself, see below. 

Regarding you question: no idea, maybe someone from the L3-PBB creators knows how to do this (and whether this code still works).

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 11:20 AM

NewbieMick:
would you try the text-selection workaround? If I see this correct, it should make the PBs printable (English language monographs at least)

It allows me to print with text selection but only selected text. If I select text, the print panel lists the section headings under the Use These Sections area, but if I select any the section grays out and I get the 'this panel supports export only' warning.

I do have normal text before heading in each of my PBs.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Aug 16 2011 3:02 PM

Mark Smith:
I do have normal text before heading in each of my PBs.
This confims the bug. Under 4.3 it seems advisable (or, if you want to print, nearly mandatory) to make the first line of text a Heading style. 

Mark Smith:
If I select text, the print panel lists the section headings under the Use These Sections area, but if I select any the section grays out and I get the 'this panel supports export only' warning.

Did you try to select several chapters? That worked for me.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 24 2011 11:28 AM

Just a quick update: this bug is not resolved in 4.3 SR-2

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 24 2011 1:50 PM

NewbieMick:

Just a quick update: this bug is not resolved in 4.3 SR-2

This appears to be a bug in Windows only, as I can have Normal style text above the first Heading in Word for Mac and the Print Sections are available.

In Windows, I don't see the bug if the first text in the book uses the Title style, with text in Normal style following it, and then the first Heading style. In that case the Print/Export panel will have a checkbox available for the title page with the other sections below and also available. The bug occurs for me if I have only Normal text above the first heading. We will try to get this in the next SR.

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Melissa Snyder | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Aug 24 2011 1:51 PM

Jerry M:

As long as we are on this topic, if I want to build a book patterned after the way Logos does it, they put the title at the top of the document and give the first line of the title as the first header.  Then they somehow rename that first line in the side bar table of contents as Title Page in bold letters.  Does anyone know how to edit the names in the table of contents?

The ability to have Title Page at the top of the TOC pane, as in non-user Logos 4 resources, is not yet available for personal books. We are looking into a way to do this for user-created resources.

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