Qn. re: purchase of WBC

Hey guys...I have been contemplating getting WBC for some time now, and even though the 7 day sale seems good value, I have already decided to get SIL exegetical summaries instead for this month's expenditure...so no rush on WBC.

But, I was wondering if the Logos version (from the Logos website I mean) is different from the Libronix (L3?) edition available from Christian bookstores as a stand alone product. (See: http://orders.koorong.com/search/product/word-biblical-commentary-59-vol-edition-wbc-cd/9781418571450.jhtml;jsessionid=71B7432481EE0FF5AC8C176CD15D474E )

Would this product let you use WBC in L4 too? Isn't it just a license you really buy?

If it is the same, why the price discrepancy? WBC from Logos at best is $499 on sale...why $350 on CD?

Thanks for your responses.

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Brother Mark

Hey guys...I have been contemplating getting WBC for some time now, and even though the 7 day sale seems good value, I have already decided to get SIL exegetical summaries instead for this month's expenditure...so no rush on WBC.

But, I was wondering if the Logos version (from the Logos website I mean) is different from the Libronix (L3?) edition available from Christian bookstores as a stand alone product. (See: http://orders.koorong.com/search/product/word-biblical-commentary-59-vol-edition-wbc-cd/9781418571450.jhtml;jsessionid=71B7432481EE0FF5AC8C176CD15D474E )

Would this product let you use WBC in L4 too? Isn't it just a license you really buy?

If it is the same, why the price discrepancy? WBC from Logos at best is $499 on sale...why $350 on CD?

Thanks for your responses.

Congratulations on an excellent find. It is indeed formatted to work in L4 (since it specifically says "libronix", its probably an L3 product, which can be activated in L4). Note the statement from the link you gave above, "This CD-Rom contains all 59 volumes of the WBC and is formatted with the state-of-the-art Libronix Digital Library System, which offers superior search, workspace, and browsing capabilities. " Looks like a great deal to me.

On the other hand, if you have ANY reservation that it will fully integrate in L4, give Logos a call and verify before you buy

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279187#Comment_279187

Thanks Brother Mark...and Koorong have a 20% off everything in stock sale every 3 months...so by then, I'll be ready...lol[A]

Timothy Ha

You can buy Libronix resources from other sellers and write to Customer support of Logos for activation in Logos 4. You can send the activation code to them by email.

I'd like to be able to input activation codes somewhere on the websites, but currently this feature is not available yet.

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279303#Comment_279303

When will the entire WBC be finished and available?

Paul N

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279311#Comment_279311

Eric,

Here's the link off the Thomas Nelson website showing the most authoritative list of WBC volumes shipped and forthcoming. The website says there are 5 outstanding volumes but only 4 are listed in the future release date area at the bottom of the page.

I'm curious to know if a publisher's thought is that if a commentary is completed, it psychologically ceases to remain respected in the community. No rush to complete here!

[EDIT] - it seems this page is out of date as there are only 4 remaining volumes left unreleased.

Bill Coley

But, I was wondering if the Logos version (from the Logos website I mean) is different from the Libronix (L3?) edition available from Christian bookstores as a stand alone product. (See: http://orders.koorong.com/search/product/word-biblical-commentary-59-vol-edition-wbc-cd/9781418571450.jhtml;jsessionid=71B7432481EE0FF5AC8C176CD15D474E )

I was quite excited about this link until I discovered Koorong's international shipping charges: 40% of the order's value! $350 became $490.

It was fun while it lasted! [:)]

Bill

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279396#Comment_279396

I was quite excited about this link until I discovered Koorong's international shipping charges: 40% of the order's value! $350 became $490

Actually it may become worse. Don't know where you live, but here in Germany the custom's people will have the Postal Service check incoming parcels and letters, will levy some customs on it (it= the full amount including P&P) and add 19% Import VAT on again the total (yes, you pay VAT also on the custom duties you paid on shipping). There is a de-minimis rule which means that they won't charge on products with less than approx. 30 USD - this helped me last time when I received a CD-ROM from a Logos reseller, which was just cents below the limit.

Thus, ordering expensive products to be shipped from overseas makes no real sense. On the other hand, there is no customs duty and Import VAT on downloads. So you may find a reseller that doesn't ship the DVD, but provides you with the valid licence key and Logos CS just activates it to your account.

Mick

Brother Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279396#Comment_279396

I was quite excited about this link until I discovered Koorong's international shipping charges: 40% of the order's value! $350 became $490.

Now THAT'S disappointing [:'(]

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279396#Comment_279396

I was quite excited about this link until I discovered Koorong's international shipping charges: 40% of the order's value! $350 became $490.

Sorry to hear that Bill...it will only be a good deal for Aussies then. (Believe me, it very rarely happens that way...lol)

Next time Koorong has a 20% off sale, I will let you know by re-activating this thread...that would bring the price down to $280...so it may be worth getting a fellow L4 Aussie to buy it for you and post it...I don't know how to help our German brother get around those import taxes though.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279495#Comment_279495

.I don't know how to help our German brother get around those import taxes though.

Well, I just tabled WBC in favor of the SIL offer, anyway, and my non-existing book budget is well overdrawn (and Prepubs coming up, the SESB 4 is announced for end of the year etc). And then again, maybe the "number only" thing will work - I seem to remember other posters here writing about it.

I'm glad that Logos brings us together accross the globe.

Mick

Bill Coley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279495#Comment_279495

Sorry to hear that Bill...it will only be a good deal for Aussies then. (Believe me, it very rarely happens that way...lol)

Thanks for the note.

The 40% charge for international orders sounds quite high (though our friends who face VATs perhaps tell a sadder tale). I think I will e-mail Koorong to ask how they came to that rate.

Bill

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/279495#Comment_279495

Next time Koorong has a 20% off sale, I will let you know by re-activating this thread

For the month of September Koorong has a 25% off all academic titles sale...so I picked up the WBC's for $262.50!!! All I needed to do was e-mail tech support and they activated the product for me straight away, then L4 downloaded it. What a bargain!

If anyone would like to take advantage of this outside Australia, I am willing to help. If you have a good way of getting the money to me...then I could buy it for you and send it. Anyway...that takes a lot of trust, so I am just offering

Matthew Godwin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283763#Comment_283763

Hi! It seems tempting... Would it work that you simply email the serial/activation without posting the disc? It would be a lot simpler that way if its possible...[:)]

EDIT: Its a kind offer too [:D]

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283781#Comment_283781

Yeah...I could just buy the disk...e-mail the activation code...and once you confirm it is okay, then dispose of the disk (so that no one else could ever use it).

Confession...I had to really fight the temptation to just write the activation code down and leave the shop...as it is displayed on the back of the CD-Rom case...but I triumphed...praise God!!!

Anyway...the only problem with the offer is how to get the funds to Australia...I'm no expert in international transactions [:)]

Brother Mark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283806#Comment_283806

Anyway...the only problem with the offer is how to get the funds to Australia...I'm no expert in international transactions

Paypal is one easy method to xfer the funds. One question, is the $262 US or Oz currency?

nicky crane

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283806#Comment_283806

Confession...I had to really fight the temptation to just write the activation code down and leave the shop...as it is displayed on the back of the CD-Rom case...but I triumphed...praise God!!!

Well done - God will repay you abundantly!

Bill Coley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283763#Comment_283763

If anyone would like to take advantage of this outside Australia, I am willing to help. If you have a good way of getting the money to me...then I could buy it for you and send it. Anyway...that takes a lot of trust, so I am just offering

Your offer is both tempting and generous. Thank you.

Is it also legal/legitimate to make such an international transaction? And acceptable to the folks at Logos? If so, I may have to negotiate with my wife!

Bill

Robert Mullen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283806#Comment_283806

Mebin,

I would be interested in doing this. How to make contact though? If you would like you can email me at rgmullen AT gmail DOT com and I will work out the details of funds transfer. I am open to other means. I also am open to other means.

Blessings,

Robert

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283808#Comment_283808

is the $262 US or Oz currency?

Australian dollar. So a little higher for US I'd expect.

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283870#Comment_283870

Is it also legal/legitimate to make such an international transaction? And acceptable to the folks at Logos?

I don't think it is illegal...but I am a novice to Logos...if anyone can give a reason why Logos would be upset, then I suppose we should respect them and not. Please, I was only offering to help folks out...not to break any rules...just to get the best deal (legitimatley) [:)]

Bill Coley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/283993#Comment_283993

I don't think it is illegal...but I am a novice to Logos...if anyone can give a reason why Logos would be upset, then I suppose we should respect them and not. Please, I was only offering to help folks out...not to break any rules...just to get the best deal (legitimatley)

I want to be clear that not for an instant do I think that by your offer you're trying to circumvent rules or to do anything else untoward or inappropriate. I am delighted to read your offer and am excited by the possibility of such remarkable savings. The point of my question was really about whether software registration keys are nation-specific, whether the perfectly legal keys attached to software in your country may be used (when purchased legitimately, as you propose to do) by residents of other nations. I intended no critique of your intentions whatsoever.

Thanks again. If I get a bit more clarity on the issue I describe - and convince my wife (!) - I may ask you to contact me by e-mail.

Blessings,

Bill

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284022#Comment_284022

Observation: Logos Forum Guidelines => Forum Guidelines include:

4. Please do not use our forums to

sell or give away anything or link to anything you’re selling or giving away—including Logos products
promote or link to competitors
point people to other places that sell Logos-compatible products
advertise yourself, your business, your ministry, your website, etc. (a tasteful link in your forum signature is acceptable)
post Logos Coupon Codes. If you are aware of a special promotion Logos is running online, you are welcome to link directly to the promotion.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284024#Comment_284024

Well KS4J...I am not sure that any of those points matter in this case except #3...

point people to other places that sell Logos-compatible products

Please do not use our forums to

So far then, what I have done wrong is mention a bookstore selling L3 products...I am sorry...I will never do it again.

However, I can't see a guideline suggesting that simply buying a product key for someone esle and e-mailing it to them (without profit)...is against the guidelines.

Questions: 1. Why wasn't these guidelines highlighted to me at the start of this thread...would have been more practicable!

2. Does Logos really miss out, I mean whatever chain/retailer who sells L3 products would have to have bought it from a supplier...and Logos would get their share.

Okay, now I feel foolish...I was just trying to do a good deed. Sorry for those who got their hopes up, but at the risk of being shunned by the MVP community, or anaethemetized by moderators of this site, I have to graciously decline my offer.

Matthew Godwin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284057#Comment_284057

Don't worry about it at all. Thanks for your kind offer!

Keep posting

Matt

Ted Hans

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284057#Comment_284057

Okay, now I feel foolish...I was just trying to do a good deed. Sorry for those who got their hopes up, but at the risk of being shunned by the MVP community, or anaethemetized by moderators of this site, I have to graciously decline my offer.

No one is shunning you at least not me. A gentle reminder is all that is needed. MVP posting here & swamping this thread with the same point would be OT. Beside since you were not aware of the forum rules and your heart was in the right place, i'd say one MVP drawing it to your attention is sufficient. Now you know for future reference.

Blessings

Bill Coley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284057#Comment_284057

Okay, now I feel foolish...I was just trying to do a good deed. Sorry for those who got their hopes up, but at the risk of being shunned by the MVP community, or anaethemetized by moderators of this site, I have to graciously decline my offer.

I consider you to be generous, not foolish. Thank you for your offer. Your rescinding the offer may have saved me a negotiation session with my wife over another Logos purchase.....Darn you!! [:D]

Bill

Is Mebin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284079#Comment_284079

Thank you all for your kindness....believe me, I really was just trying to help. These forums are really my only fellowship with other Christians that I have so I would be severely wounded if I got a bad name on here. I check what people are discussing here a few times a day, usually more than actually using the program...lol!

It's funny how you can feel close to people that you are only interacting with in this way, with nothing personal (usually), maybe a sign of our age.

I mean, I would even miss the smiley faces of KS4J even with the disjointed sentences that read like a monotone data read out...lol!

God bless you all. I appreciate you so much [:$]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/284155#Comment_284155

Thank you all for your kindness....believe me, I really was just trying to help. These forums are really my only fellowship with other Christians that I have so I would be severely wounded if I got a bad name on here. I check what people are discussing here a few times a day, usually more than actually using the program...lol!

It's funny how you can feel close to people that you are only interacting with in this way, with nothing personal (usually), maybe a sign of our age.

I mean, I would even miss the smiley faces of KS4J even with the disjointed sentences that read like a monotone data read out...lol!

God bless you all. I appreciate you so much

Likewise understand desire for kindness and enjoy fellowship on forums. Also want to respect guidelines from Logos for forum discussion.

Am aware of other discussion possibilities: e.g. Still Truth has some "Great Finds" forum threads.

Apologies for monotone and being disjointed. [:$]

Keep Smiling [:)]