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Jack Zhang | Forum Activity | Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009 4:59 PM

How do you use the Englishman's Concordance in Logos 4?

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Jack Zhang | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 5 2009 5:37 PM

I should clarify myself. In Logos 3, you can right click a word and then left click Englishman's concordance, and it will give all the instances in which the original word is used through the bible. How do you do that in Logos 4.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 5 2009 5:46 PM

The way to do that in Logos 4 is to right click on the word. When the panel opens up you should see a listing for the Strong's #. Click on that and then select "Search this Resource" on the left hand side. The results will not look like the version3 Englishman's concordance, but will give you every listing of that word in the Old or New Testament.

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Robert M. Warren | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 5 2009 5:47 PM

I wondered that, too.

  1. Right-click the word
  2. In the right column of the pop up, click Strong's
  3. In the left column of the pop up, click Search this resource

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Kevin Becker | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Nov 5 2009 5:49 PM

If you have a text tagged with Strong's numbers right click on the word, in the right column click "Strongs #????" and then click "search this resource"

If the English text has Greek behind it (for the reverse interlinears) right click on the word, then click "lemma" in the right and "search this resource" on the left

Then in the search window click "aligned" to put all the translations of that original language term in a column like in Logos 3.

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:41 PM

JackZhang:
How do you use the Englishman's Concordance in Logos 4?

Run a Bible Word Study on the English word, then click the Greek or Hebrew word in the center of a ring-graph, and you'll see English search hits grouped by the underlying Greek or Hebrew word.

Or right-click on an English word in a Bible with a reverse interlinear (like the KJV or ESV) and then do the Bible Word Study on the Greek or Hebrew word. Clicking the center of the ring-graphs there will show results grouped by the underlying Greek or Hebrew word.

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Bob Pritchett | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:42 PM

(Strong's Numbers are just proxies for Greek and Hebrew words, designed to make paper reference books easier for people who don't know Greek/Hebrew alphabet, alphabetical order, etc. With digital tools and reverse interlinears, students who don't know the languages can still work directly on the Greek or Hebrew lemma, making Strong's less necessary.)

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:43 PM

Bob Pritchett:

(Strong's Numbers are just proxies for Greek and Hebrew words, designed to make paper reference books easier for people who don't know Greek/Hebrew alphabet, alphabetical order, etc. With digital tools and reverse interlinears, students who don't know the languages can still work directly on the Greek or Hebrew lemma, making Strong's less necessary.)

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 2:31 PM

Philip Spitzer:
you make George very happy.

I hope he's reading this so he can benefit from this excellent piece of information.

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 2:41 PM

This is weird.  I've got the ESV interlinear open and I tried a right click search using both strong's numbers and the lemma (working in 1 Peter, tried a couple of different verses and words) and I'm getting no hits.  Tried it in a couple of different interlinears as well.  No hits.

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 2:58 PM

John Murphy:

This is weird.  I've got the ESV interlinear open and I tried a right click search using both strong's numbers and the lemma (working in 1 Peter, tried a couple of different verses and words) and I'm getting no hits.  Tried it in a couple of different interlinears as well.  No hits.

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

John

Select from you left hand box window. Presently, you are simply clicking on the lemma. select lemma then select "search this resource" etc on your left hand section.

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:03 PM

I did that and no results.  Right click on word | lemma | search this resource.  Tried it with strong's numbers and louw-nida.  No joy.  It will do a search for an english word, but not for anything else.  Works with NA27, but not ESV.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:07 PM

John Murphy:
I did that and no results.  Right click on word | lemma | search this resource.  Tried it with strong's numbers and louw-nida.  No joy.  It will do a search for an english word, but not for anything else.  Works with NA27, but not ESV.

If I am following you, I tried the same thing (1 Peter 1:1 'dispersion'), asked to search for the lemma via 'Search this Resource' and go this:

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:24 PM

Weird.  I'll post a screenshot of my results doing the exact same search:

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:26 PM

Sorry about the size of the picture.  Here is a better picture.

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Robert Pavich | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:35 PM

Philip Spitzer:

Bob Pritchett:

(Strong's Numbers are just proxies for Greek and Hebrew words, designed to make paper reference books easier for people who don't know Greek/Hebrew alphabet, alphabetical order, etc. With digital tools and reverse interlinears, students who don't know the languages can still work directly on the Greek or Hebrew lemma, making Strong's less necessary.)

 

 

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Actually, that was George typing with Bob tied up to a chair at the Pritchett house.

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:44 PM

John Murphy:

I did that and no results.  Right click on word | lemma | search this resource.  Tried it with strong's numbers and louw-nida.  No joy.  It will do a search for an english word, but not for anything else.  Works with NA27, but not ESV.

Check and see if you have an ESV interlinear for V4. If not you will need to cross-grade to get this feature. Ted

 

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John Murphy | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:49 PM

Yep.  Got it.  Not sure what the problem is...  Might have to call Logos Support...

 

 

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Ted Hans | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Nov 7 2009 3:57 PM

John Murphy:

Yep.  Got it.  Not sure what the problem is...  Might have to call Logos Support...

 

 

How strange, at this point i think calling Logos support is a good idea.

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John Murphy:

Yep.  Got it.  Not sure what the problem is...  Might have to call Logos Support...

If you perform a "Basic" search on the Entire Library, does it display a yellow bar stating that your library is being indexed? I think it's possible that an initial index of your library might have completed (allowing English searches to work), but the reverse interlinears might still be getting indexed (preventing lemma or morph searches from working).

 

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