WBC Micah-Malachi revised

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John Duffy | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Sep 19 2011 11:20 AM

Does anyone know what the revisions on the WBC Mic-Mal book are?  Is it worth getting it if you already have the existing (previous Logos) version?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 11:47 AM

John Duffy:

Does anyone know what the revisions on the WBC Mic-Mal book are?  Is it worth getting it if you already have the existing (previous Logos) version?

As Sgt Schulz used to say, "I know nothing."  I would opine, however, that if there were not significant changes they would not publish a revision.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 11:58 AM

After looking at the sample pages and comparing them (cursorily) with that in my library, I don't see much difference.  You have me wondering now.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 12:31 PM

All I can find is that it was scheduled on the chart:

Upcoming Revisions and 2nd Editions scheduled are:
Volume ISBN Title Release Date
10 1418500216 1 Samuel 2nd Edition In Stock
7 0785252681 Joshua 2nd Edition TBD
40 1418500224 2 Corinthians Revision TBD
32 0785250921 Micah/Malachi Revision October 2011
34A 0785250158 Mark 1-8:26 Revision TBD
50 0785250204 2 Peter/Jude Revision TBD
5 0785250166 Numbers 2nd Edition July 2012
44 1418500224 Colossians/Philemon Revision TBD
45 0785250212 1&2 Thessalonians Revision April 2011

 

I can't even find where Ralph L. Smith is at these days.  I thought I read something about a Professor Emeritus position at Southwestern Baptist Seminary but it didn't give a date.  He is not to be confused with Ralph M. Smith.

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David Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 2:41 PM

Have to agree with George on this one : nothing immediately obvious.

Suggest we need someone from Logos to tell us the substance of the revisions..... Confused

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Scott E. Mahle | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 3:38 PM

It has a new publication date! Big Smile

 

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John Duffy | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 3:40 PM

If it's a major revision, I would not be against paying full price for it.  But if I already have the previous edition as a digital book, I would have expected a lower price for a minor revision as a digital download, not the full price again.   

When I compare what I would get for the same money, between a minor revision (if that is what it is) and a completely new book that I don't have in my library, there is a good argument for putting the budget towards something else instead.

I wait to hear what the changes are.  But in the long run, I hope that I don't have to pay out full price one book at a time for revisions as this is one of the main commentary collections I have.  Surely there should be a substantial discount for updates as electronic downloads for those who already have previous editions, especially when the updates are minor revisions.  Just thinking out loud here - thinking more generally, across other commentary series also.  While it might be inexpensive to buy a certain series initially, will it be much more expensive to maintain it over time, if publishers will expect users to pay full price (or near it) for revisions, even minor ones?  But the option to just not buy it is always there...

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 4:06 PM

Scott E. Mahle:
It has a new publication date! Big Smile

In that case I must buy it.  How could I do without the new publication date?  Wink

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John Retallick | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 4:57 PM

I'm interested in the extent of revision too, particularly as it's the same author.

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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 19 2011 5:40 PM

John Duffy:
I would have expected a lower price for a minor revision as a digital download, not the full price again.   

You could check to see what Logos can do for a current version owner. Nelson usually offers a discount for revised editions and new releases for those who own their 54 and 6 volume WBC offering. Logos might be able to give you that directly if you are interested. The Nelson site curiously does not list the revised Micah-Malachi volume.

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David Wilson | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 1:03 PM

I take it the consensus is that the revisions are not substantial enough to warrant existing owners of the original updating to the revised copy.

I saw nothing in the text or revision descrition to suggest otherwise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Jerry Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 1:56 PM

I eMailed Customer Service and am awaiting an answer to 1) the depth/degree/kind of revisions and 2) any "upgrade" for present owners of the WBC series . . .

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Andrew Malone | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 4:00 PM

I agree with those who are suggesting caution. Although I've not gone through all the WBC versions, the nature of their 'revisions' tends towards being fairly light.

Thus, some volumes (my guess would include Psalms 101–150 , Isaiah 1–33 and 34–66, Philippians) have been thoroughly revised; Philippians even includes a new co-author. But others, especially 1 Kings and Psalms 1–50 and John have merely added an extended introduction and updated bibliography. That's not to say that these supplements are unhelpful – but they're hardly as attractive as a fully-revised book.

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Leo Wee Fah | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 20 2011 4:46 PM

I have read in many places, and lately in "A Guide to Biblical Commentaries & Reference Works for students and pastors, 9th edition" by John F. Evans, that the revision was to be carried by Douglas Stuart:

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Smith, Ralph L. ‡ Micah–Malachi (WBC) 1984. Workmanlike, but not very stimulating.

Not at all up to the standard of Stuart’s work on the first five Minor Prophets

and much more critical. I had hoped for more theological discussion. Overall it is

a disappointment, though offering some help with the Hebrew. While students will

consult Smith for papers, pastors should probably steer clear of this older WBC.

In past editions I expressed my hope that Nelson would replace this volume. They

are. See Stuart below.

 

[RTR 1/86; ExpTim 6/85; JBL 105.3 (1986); JETS 6/85; HebStud 1984].

F Stuart, Douglas.

 

Micah–Malachi (WBC replacement). I saw this announced for late

2009, but Nelson has often been terribly late on predictions for WBC. This is to

replace Ralph Smith’s work.

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Stephen Steele | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 1 2014 2:19 PM

Does anyone know what happened to this? Was it a mistake? Can find very few references to a revised edition online. 

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abondservant | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 1 2014 2:30 PM

if I remember right, this was pulled from logos website because it hadn't been written yet.

So I suspect it still has not yet been written.

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