Greek Fonts in WORD 2010?

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Dr. David C. Alves | Forum Activity | Posted: Sat, Sep 24 2011 12:20 PM

I recently upgraded to Office 2010. I've discovered I have no Greek or Hebrew fonts in WORD 2010.

Can anyone recommend a course of action? What have YOU done if you're using WORD 2010?

Thanks in advance for any direction you can give.

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alabama24 | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 12:47 PM

Dr. Alves - 

Are you saying that you don't have Greek & Hebrew fonts installed on your Windows PC? Logos comes with fonts, but alas, I am a MAC user and don't know where to tell you to find them. 

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 2:07 PM

Dr. David C. Alves:

I recently upgraded to Office 2010. I've discovered I have no Greek or Hebrew fonts in WORD 2010.

Can anyone recommend a course of action? What have YOU done if you're using WORD 2010?

Thanks in advance for any direction you can give.

Well, I dowloaded Greek Fonts where I found them on the Internet on sites that teach NT Greek (such as teknia.com, little greek) - google may help. I think that Word 2010 seems to auto-install some fonts when it detects them in a document that is opened, but I may be in error here. At least, most of the time you will want to have the fonts that the producers of the documents used in order to enjoy the reading experience without reformatting.

Since I use SBL Greek in Logos as Greek standard font, I downloaded and installed this from http://www.sbl-site.org/educational/BiblicalFonts_SBLGreek.aspx

Hope this helps,

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Richard DeRuiter | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 3:39 PM

Dr. David C. Alves:

I recently upgraded to Office 2010. I've discovered I have no Greek or Hebrew fonts in WORD 2010.

Can anyone recommend a course of action? What have YOU done if you're using WORD 2010?

Thanks in advance for any direction you can give.

You have two other options from Logos which allows you to use unicode fonts (now the industry standard).

1. Install one of the ancient languages keyboards from Logos. These will let you type in Greek using the extended characters in unicode fonts. There's even a video on the page about how to install them on your system. That page is here: http://www.logos.com/support/downloads/keyboards

2. If you're not very good at typing in Greek (or Hebrew), and you only need a Greek word or two once in a while, you could also use Shibboleth. It's a pretty cool tool, pretty easy to use, and it copies/pastes well into MS Word. That page is here: http://www.logos.com/shibboleth

Either one of those options are the recommended ones, especially if you ever want to import anything into Logos as a PBB, since Logos often changes the font on import, since unicode is now the industry standard for this type of thing.

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Matt Hamrick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 4:48 PM

You can go to Mounce's website and download free greek and hebrew fonts. You should already know his website.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 5:09 PM

Dr. David C. Alves:

I recently upgraded to Office 2010. I've discovered I have no Greek or Hebrew fonts in WORD 2010.

Can anyone recommend a course of action? What have YOU done if you're using WORD 2010?

Thanks in advance for any direction you can give.

You should have gotten a number of Greek and Hebrew fonts installed with your L4 (or L3) installation.  Open Windows Explorer and navigate to C:\\Windows\Fonts and see if you have such fonts as SBL Hebrew, Ezra SIL, Gentium, KadmosU, New Athena Unicode as well as some others such as the Estrangelo and Serto fonts for Syriac.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Sep 24 2011 11:50 PM

Word 2010 has insert symbol tool that includes Greek Extended unicode characters:

Word 2010 default body font: Calibri has unicode Greek characters.

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Dr. David C. Alves | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 25 2011 4:46 AM

This is great information. I have a couple of the fonts listed: SBL Greek; SBL Hebrew; KadmosU . . .  BUT NO on Ezra, SIL, Gentium

 

But I have not clearly stated the problem . . . 

 

I have some Greek and Hebrew fonts, but they end up as English in the doc.

 

So if I type "luw" I don't get the Greek letter I get "luw"

 

In addition, all the articles or posts that include greek or hebrew words, including my book manuscript, are now English instead of the original greek or hebrew which appeared prior to my update to Windows 7 and Office 2010.

 

I hope this clarifies.

 

As far as Unicode being available, I don't know anything about how I would use Unicode or Symbols. Never had the need.

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 25 2011 5:34 AM

Dr. David C. Alves:

But I have not clearly stated the problem . . . I have some Greek and Hebrew fonts, but they end up as English in the doc. So if I type "luw" I don't get the Greek letter I get "luw"

This is typical for Unicode fonts such as those Logos uses. Only older (outdated?) fonts change an a to alpha. Several people pointed you to tools which are able to generate Greek or Hebrew text, especially the Logos tool  http://www.logos.com/shibboleth.

Alternatively, switch your keyboard layout from english (shows EN in the statusbar) to Greek (shows EL) and type it. ανδ τηεν ζου ωιλλ σεε Γρεεκ χηγαραχτερσ ον ζουρ σχρεεν.   

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 25 2011 6:06 AM

Dr. David C. Alves:

I have some Greek and Hebrew fonts, but they end up as English in the doc.

 

So if I type "luw" I don't get the Greek letter I get "luw"

 

In addition, all the articles or posts that include greek or hebrew words, including my book manuscript, are now English instead of the original greek or hebrew which appeared prior to my update to Windows 7 and Office 2010.

 

I hope this clarifies.

What you apparently need is a Greek (Hebrew) keyboard.  These can be downloaded and installed from the Logos site.  Simply type "keyboards" in the search bar on the site.  I have my computer set up so that <lft-alt, shift,1> is English, <lft-alt, shift, 2> is Greek, <lft-alt, shift, 3> is Hebrew, and <lft-alt, shift, 4> is Syriac.  Using Word 2010 or any other program with an English interface will always result in Latinate characters unless you change keyboards.  In L3 they had the icon in the taskbar you could use for changing languages, but that is not in L4.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun, Sep 25 2011 5:52 PM

Dr. David C. Alves:

I have some Greek and Hebrew fonts, but they end up as English in the doc.

So if I type "luw" I don't get the Greek letter I get "luw"

In addition, all the articles or posts that include greek or hebrew words, including my book manuscript, are now English instead of the original greek or hebrew which appeared prior to my update to Windows 7 and Office 2010.

Logos has an article about Unicode, Fonts, & Keyboards => http://www.logos.com/support/lbs/fonts

Dumbarton Oaks Research Library has a "Guide to Unicode Greek" => http://www.doaks.org/research/byzantine/doaks_unicode_greek_guide.html

Learned Office 2010 has one font (Symbol) that has Greek letters for luw:

All Logos 4 Greek Fonts use Unicode Greek characters (added some Greek Unicode with accents for font comparison)

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Dr. David C. Alves | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Sep 26 2011 5:41 AM

Though I appreciate everyone's input. The language keyboards were the answer I needed. So thanks for the link to the video. I followed the video and now have both my Greek and Hebrew available to me by simply using the "alt+shift+#".  I assigned 1 for English, 2 for Greek and 3 for Hebrew. Now I can quickly switch between them. This is actually a better configuration than I had when using Word 2007  with XP.

So thanks Richard . . . and all others who shared your knowledge and time regarding this challenge.

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Mark | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 5:16 PM

Mathematica1 is the font you want, and you should already have it installed.

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Milford Charles Murray | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 6:44 PM

Mark:

Mathematica1 is the font you want, and you should already have it installed.

Peace, Mark!                        Welcome to the Logos Forums....              I notice this is your first post!

               I just checked my fonts; and I do NOT have Mathematica1............                Can you describe it further?  Do I "want" Mathematica1 -- or were you posting in reply to any particular post.             Looking forward to hearing from you!     *smile*

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Super.Tramp | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 7:46 PM

Mark:

Mathematica1 is the font you want, and you should already have it installed.

Don't think so.

Mathematica1 is a symbol set developed by Andre Kuzniarek for use in Wolfram's Mathematica. It has nothing to do with Hebrew and the only Greek symbols in it are for mathematical operations.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 8:07 PM

Super Tramp:

Mark:

Mathematica1 is the font you want, and you should already have it installed.

Don't think so.

Mathematica1 is a symbol set developed by Andre Kuzniarek for use in Wolfram's Mathematica. It has nothing to do with Hebrew and the only Greek symbols in it are for mathematical operations.

Note the poster and consider any other posts by him as suspect unless he begins to post relevant material.  This has all the earmarks of a troll so don't feed him (again, unless he begins to post relevant material).

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Mitchell | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 9:09 PM

Matthew Hamrick:

You can go to Mounce's website and download free greek and hebrew fonts. You should already know his website.

I'd highly recommend avoiding the fonts Mounce provides. Instead of using unicode, which is now the standard, the Teknia fonts simply render Greek glyphs in place of English characters. So if you type an "e," as far as the computer is concerned it's still an "e," even though the "e" in TekniaGreek looks like an "ε". If you were to change it to another font or copy and paste it into another program, it would look something like very poorly transliterated Greek. "Legvmhn" instead of "λεγωμην", for example.

Gentium, SBLGreek, and Palatino Linotype are some examples of nice fonts that support Polytonic greek typing. Just change the language in your keyboard settings to access the Greek glyphs.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Apr 30 2013 9:27 PM

Mitchell:

Matthew Hamrick:

You can go to Mounce's website and download free greek and hebrew fonts. You should already know his website.

I'd highly recommend avoiding the fonts Mounce provides. Instead of using unicode, which is now the standard, the Teknia fonts simply render Greek glyphs in place of English characters. So if you type an "e," as far as the computer is concerned it's still an "e," even though the "e" in TekniaGreek looks like an "ε". If you were to change it to another font or copy and paste it into another program, it would look something like very poorly transliterated Greek. "Legvmhn" instead of "λεγωμην", for example.

Gentium, SBLGreek, and Palatino Linotype are some examples of nice fonts that support Polytonic greek typing. Just change the language in your keyboard settings to access the Greek glyphs.

Good advice.  Another set of fonts to avoid is the BibleWorks fonts.

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