Is there a way to search for indicatives/imperatives in a book of the Bible

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011 9:10 AM

I'm wondering if there is a way to search for all the indicative and/or imperatives in a book of the Bible--say Romans?

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 9:26 AM

Steven L. Spencer:

I'm wondering if there is a way to search for all the indicative and/or imperatives in a book of the Bible--say Romans?

Sure, do a morph search for, say, Romans with "@V??I" for the indicative and "@V??M" for imperative.

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 10:48 AM

Thanks, George. Can you be more specific (step-by-step) how to do this?  Thanks.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 11:11 AM

Steven L. Spencer:

Thanks, George. Can you be more specific (step-by-step) how to do this?  Thanks.

  1. Open a search dialogue and select "Morph." 
  2. In the search box enter "@" then select "Verb" in the drop-down. 
  3. Skip "Tense" and "Voice" (unless you wish to specify these)
  4. Under "Mood" select either "Indicative" or "Imperative" depending on which you want.
  5. <Enter>

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 12:22 PM

Thank you so much, George. I will give that a try. I very much appreciate your help and guidance on this matter--Steve

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Dave Hooton | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 3:48 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

Thank you so much, George. I will give that a try. I very much appreciate your help and guidance on this matter--Steve

If you select BOTH moods, it will search for Indicative OR Imperative.

See http://wiki.logos.com/Morphological_Search

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 4:18 PM

Dave Hooton:
If you select BOTH moods, it will search for Indicative OR Imperative.

But then you need to sort them out.

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 4:31 PM

I'm sorry for being so dense, but I need a step-by-step description on how to do these kinds of searches.  Could someone please take the time to give me this information?  It will be very much appreciated.

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 4:40 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

I'm sorry for being so dense, but I need a step-by-step description on how to do these kinds of searches.  Could someone please take the time to give me this information?  It will be very much appreciated.

Is there something unclear in the instructions above?

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 8:33 PM

Wiki has => Morphological Search with illustrated steps: previously suggested.

Wiki Getting Started with Logos => Search includes link Logos created 5 “Faster Searching” videos , one video shows Hebrew Morphological search => Faster Searching - Hebrew Morphology in ESV Reverse Interlinear

Morph Search in Romans for indicatives or imperatives could look like:

Note: idou in Romans 9:33 has two Discourse Analysis tags and two Morphological tags.  Mouse was hovering over idou for screenshot

By the way, wiki Extended Tips for Highlighting and Visual Filters => Examples of visual filters has a screen capture with 5 Logos Greek Morphology visual filters with their Morph Search definitions.  Wonder if custom highlighting palette information desired ? (e.g. Accusative Case has a Natural Highlighter Background).

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Jacob Hantla | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Sep 27 2011 8:58 PM

Steven L. Spencer:

I'm sorry for being so dense, but I need a step-by-step description on how to do these kinds of searches.  Could someone please take the time to give me this information?  It will be very much appreciated.

It might be easier to watch me do it. Here's a video of me conducting your searches: http://screencast.com/t/oTdxcdVFtUS

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Steven L. Spencer | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Sep 28 2011 12:14 PM

Thanks to all of you for your help. Jacob, your video taught me a lot.  Again, I appreciate those who are more experienced with Logos 4 helping amateurs like me.  God bless you all!

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