Perseus: Which were written before and after the New Testament

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Posted: Mon, Oct 3 2011 7:30 PM

Does anyone know which documents were written 100 years before or after the New Testament documents were written. Those are the ones most important to me for textual searches.

Thanks.

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Mike & Rachel Aubrey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 7:43 PM

HI Lynden,

I had received a preview copy for blogging about--unfortunately, I've had computer problems and didn't get to post anything before everything went live on the 30th. But in the process, I worked hard to create a number of collections on the basis of the dates individual authors lived and wrote. I compiled the data into a table that arranged both the Greek and Latin writers by century from Homer through the Late Roman / Early Byzantine authors.

As soon as I have that particular hard drive plugged into a machine that works, I'll see about uploading it here. Hopefully, it will appear on my blog relatively soon to...even though its late...sign.

In the meantime, it takes a whole lot of work, but you can punch author names into Wikipedia and get dates. Its a huge hassle and time consuming, but it works.

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 7:59 PM

Thanks Mike. Please post here when it goes live on the blog. Would be very interested in the collections.

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JT (alabama24) | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 8:03 PM

Lynden - 

Hopefully Mike can help you with that when he posts his blog. Until then, I thought I would give you a hint: Don't look in the Civil War collection. Stick out tongue

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Mike & Rachel Aubrey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 8:04 PM

I just realized I have the collection rules in Logos even though everything I wrote in preparation for the release is currently inaccessible. I made rules for a couple of them (the others, I dragged and dropped), including what you're most interested in (the time of the NT):

All Greek texts (this is edited specifically for searching, so duplicate Greek texts aren't included, nor are the papyri):

(author:Lucian OR author:Plutarch OR author:Aretaeus OR author:Apollodorus OR author:Epictetus OR author:Arrian OR author:Appian OR author:Pausanias OR author:Aristides OR author:Galen OR author:Homer OR author:Hesiod OR author:Aeschylus OR author:Pindar OR author:Bacchylides OR author:Colluthus OR author:Herodotus OR author:Sophocles OR author:Andocides OR author:Aristophanes OR author:Lysias OR author:Hippocrates OR author:Xenophon OR author:Plato OR author:Lycurgus OR author:Hyperides OR author:Aristotle OR author:Demosthenes OR author:Demades OR author:Dinarchus OR author:Theophrastus OR author:Euclid OR author:Aratus OR author:Callimachus OR author:Lycophron OR author:Theocritus OR author:Polybius OR author:Diodorus OR author:dionysius OR author:Strabo OR author:Aretaeus OR title:"the apostolic fathers: Greek texts" OR author:Josephus OR author:Philo OR title:"lexham discourse" OR title:"lexham greek-english interlinear septuagint" OR author:Heiser) AND lang:Greek

Greek Texts 1-2nd c. CE

(author:Lucian OR author:Plutarch OR author:Aretaeus OR author:Apollodorus OR author:Epictetus OR author:Arrian OR author:Appian OR author:Pausanias OR author:Aristides OR author:Galen) AND lang:Greek

Greek Texts 3-5th c. CE

(author:Athenaeus OR author:Oppian OR author:Diogenes OR author:Tryphiodorus OR author:Pseudo-Plutarch OR author:Smyrnaeus OR author:Nonnus) AND lang:Greek

On all of these, if you take out the "AND lang:Greek" you'll get the English translations in your collections as well.

 

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 8:05 PM

Thanks Alabama. Perseus is the only one that has been released to me so far. I think the hurricanes scared the rest away. Wink

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Lynden Williams | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 3 2011 8:13 PM

Thanks Mike for the collections.

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Timothy Ha | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 3:48 AM

Thanks, Mike.

P.S.: and I am bookmarking this topic for "My Forums" this way :)

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Bohuslav Wojnar | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:26 AM

Mike Aubrey:
I just realized I have the collection rules in Logos even though everything I wrote in preparation for the release is currently inaccessible. I made rules for a couple of them (the others, I dragged and dropped), including what you're most interested in (the time of the NT):

Thank you Mike so much. Yes

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Allen Browne | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:42 AM

Mike Aubrey:
All Greek texts ...

Thanks for doing these, Mike.

In the past, I've had trouble with the number of characters I can use in creating a rule for a collection, so I've tried shortening your All Greek Texts like this:

(author:(Lucian,Plutarch,Aretaeus,Apollodorus,Epictetus,Arrian,Appian,Pausanias,Aristides,Galen,Homer,Hesiod,Aeschylus,Pindar,Bacchylides,Colluthus,Herodotus,Sophocles,Andocides,Aristophanes,Lysias,Hippocrates,Xenophon,Plato,Lycurgus,Hyperides,Aristotle,Demosthenes,Demades,Dinarchus,Theophrastus,Euclid,Aratus,Callimachus,Lycophron,Theocritus,Polybius,Diodorus,dionysius,Strabo,Aretaeus) OR title:(Josephus,Philo,Heiser,"the apostolic fathers: Greek texts","lexham discourse","lexham greek-english interlinear septuagint")) AND lang:Greek

I'm not sure how you de-duplicated, but perhaps this might be an alternative:

lang:Greek ANDNOT type:(Bible,Lexicon,"Clause Visualization")

Your dividing the texts into centuries was handy too. Thanks.

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Patrick Rietveld | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 4:45 AM

That is nice, Mike!

For all the Greek texts, I have publisher:perseus AND (lang:greek).

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spitzerpl | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 5:19 AM

Really awesome Mike. Great job and thanks for sharing.

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Praiser | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 6:34 AM

Nice collection rules! Thank you for sharing.

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Hapax Legomena | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 8:03 AM

Thank you!

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 7:13 PM

Thanks Geeked

Wiki => http://wiki.logos.com/Example_Collections now has 22 examples that include or exclude Perseus (see Title or Collection Size notes), including "Greek Texts: Search Set", "Greek Texts: 1st-2nd Century CE", "Greek Texts: 3rd-5th Century CE", "Texts: 1st-2nd Century CE", and "Texts: 3rd-5th Century CE" (based on Mike Audbrey's collections posted earlier).

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Mike & Rachel Aubrey | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 8 2011 9:37 AM

Here's a full chronology of authors. Take the dates with a grain of salt, but if you're making collections by era (classical, hellenistic, roman, byzantine, etc.), then this will work just fine for you. The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes cannot the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams, mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.

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254-184 BCE T. Maccius Plautus

~8th c. BCE Homer

100-44 BCE C. Julius Caesar

~7-6th c. BCE? Homeric Hymns

104-43 BCE Cicero

~750-650 BCE Hesiod

99-55 BCE Lucretius

525-455 BCE Aeschylus

86-35 BCE Sallust

522-443 BCE Pindar

65-27 BCE Horace

~5th c. BCE Bacchylides

70-19 BCE Virgil

~5th c. BCE Colluthus

55-19 BCE Tibullus

484-425 BCE Herodotus

59-17 BCE Livy

497-406 BCE Sophocles

80-15 BCE Vitruvius

460-395 BCE Thucydides  Only in the English!

50-15 BCE Propertius

440-390 BCE Andocides

43 BCE – 17 CE Ovidius

446-386 BCE Aristophanes

54 BCE – 39 CE Seneca the Elder

445-380 BCE Lysias

15 BCE – 50 CE Phaedrus

460-370  BCE Hippocrates

4 BCE – 65 CE Seneca the Younger

430-354 BCE Xenophon

1st c. BCE – 1st c. CE Sulpicia

424-348 BCE Plato

4-70 CE Columella

396-323 BCE Lycurgus of Athens

1st c. CE Gaius Valerius Flaccus

390-322 BCE Hyperides

1st c. CE Quintus Curtius Rufus

384-322 BCE Aristotle

34-62 CE Persius

384-322 BCE Demosthenes

39-65 CE Lucan

380-318 BCE Demades

27-66 CE Petronius

389-314 BCE Aeschines

23-79 CE Pliny the Elder

361-291BCE Dinarchus

45-96 CE P. Papinius Statius

371-287 BCE Theophrastus

35-100 CE Quintilian

~300 BCE Euclid

61-112 CE Pliny the Younger

315-240 BCE Aratus Soloensis

56-117 CE Cornelius Tacitus

310-240 BCE Callimachus

69-130 CE G. Suetonius Tranquillus

3rd c. BCE Lycophron

~2nd c. CE Lucius Annaeus Florus

3rd c. BCE Theocritus

1-2nd c. CE Juvenal

200-118 BCE Polybius

125-180 CE Apuleius

1st c. BCE Diodorus Siculus

125-180 CE Aulus Gellius

60-7 BCE Dionysius of Halicarnassus

160-220 CE Tertullian

64 BCE – 24 CE Strabo

~2-3 c. CE Marcus Minucius Felix

1st c. CE Aretaeus

~4th c. CE Scriptores Historiae Augustae

~1-2 c. CE Pseudo-Apollodorus

4th c. CE Maurus Servius Honoratus

46-120 CE Plutarch

325-391 CE Ammianus Marcellinus

55-135 CE Epictetus

348-413 CE Prudentius

86-160 CE Arrian

347-420 CE Saint Jerome

95-165 CE Appian

354-430 CE Saint Augustine

2nd c. CE Pausanias

672-735 CE The Venerable Bede

117-181 CE Aelius Aristides

 

125-180 CE Lucian

 

129-199 CE Galen

 

~2-3 c. CE Athenaeus

 

~2-3 c. CE? Oppian

 

3rd c. CE Diogenes Laertius

 

~3-4th c. CE Tryphiodorus

 

~3-4th c. CE Pseudo-Plutarch

 

~4th c. CE Quintus Smyrnaeus

 

~4-5th c. CE Nonnus of Panopolis



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Mark Smith | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 8 2011 10:44 AM

Mike,

I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

Thanks for posting this for us.

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Philana Crouch | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Oct 8 2011 11:33 AM

Mark Smith:

Mike,

I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

Thanks for posting this for us.

Thank you so much for creating this .docx file it will be very helpful. I already used it to create a personal book...in anticipation of getting the Perseus Classics Collection soon. I was able to download the Arabic Collection Friday, so hoping to receive more of them on Monday.

Blessings in Christ,

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Mike & Rachel Aubrey | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 10 2011 8:03 PM

Mike Aubrey:
Here's a full chronology of authors. Take the dates with a grain of salt, but if you're making collections by era (classical, hellenistic, roman, byzantine, etc.), then this will work just fine for you. The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes cannot the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams, mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.

Some words got lost in there.

The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes cannot be dated because they contain a range of texts from across the spectrum of years from the post-Alexander the Great Greek Kingdoms--roughly 350 BC--through the Early Medieval Period) and the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams, mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.

Don't know how that happened.

Anyway, the .docx file looks good--I probably just should have uploaded mine to begin with!

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George Somsel | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Oct 10 2011 9:55 PM

Mark Smith:

Mike,

I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

Thanks for posting this for us.

Here's another though it's incomplete and I'm still working on it.  I'll post it when complete.

4705.Perseus Greek & Latin Authors.docx

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