Perseus: Which were written before and after the New Testament

Lynden O. Williams
Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,994
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Does anyone know which documents were written 100 years before or after the New Testament documents were written. Those are the ones most important to me for textual searches.

Thanks.

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  • Mike  Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member Posts: 447 ✭✭

    HI Lynden,

    I had received a preview copy for blogging about--unfortunately, I've had computer problems and didn't get to post anything before everything went live on the 30th. But in the process, I worked hard to create a number of collections on the basis of the dates individual authors lived and wrote. I compiled the data into a table that arranged both the Greek and Latin writers by century from Homer through the Late Roman / Early Byzantine authors.

    As soon as I have that particular hard drive plugged into a machine that works, I'll see about uploading it here. Hopefully, it will appear on my blog relatively soon to...even though its late...sign.

    In the meantime, it takes a whole lot of work, but you can punch author names into Wikipedia and get dates. Its a huge hassle and time consuming, but it works.

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,994

    Thanks Mike. Please post here when it goes live on the blog. Would be very interested in the collections.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,519

    Lynden - 

    Hopefully Mike can help you with that when he posts his blog. Until then, I thought I would give you a hint: Don't look in the Civil War collection. [:P]

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  • Mike  Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member Posts: 447 ✭✭

    I just realized I have the collection rules in Logos even though everything I wrote in preparation for the release is currently inaccessible. I made rules for a couple of them (the others, I dragged and dropped), including what you're most interested in (the time of the NT):

    All Greek texts (this is edited specifically for searching, so duplicate Greek texts aren't included, nor are the papyri):

    (author:Lucian OR author:Plutarch OR author:Aretaeus OR author:Apollodorus OR author:Epictetus OR author:Arrian OR author:Appian OR author:Pausanias OR author:Aristides OR author:Galen OR author:Homer OR author:Hesiod OR author:Aeschylus OR author:Pindar OR author:Bacchylides OR author:Colluthus OR author:Herodotus OR author:Sophocles OR author:Andocides OR author:Aristophanes OR author:Lysias OR author:Hippocrates OR author:Xenophon OR author:Plato OR author:Lycurgus OR author:Hyperides OR author:Aristotle OR author:Demosthenes OR author:Demades OR author:Dinarchus OR author:Theophrastus OR author:Euclid OR author:Aratus OR author:Callimachus OR author:Lycophron OR author:Theocritus OR author:Polybius OR author:Diodorus OR author:dionysius OR author:Strabo OR author:Aretaeus OR title:"the apostolic fathers: Greek texts" OR author:Josephus OR author:Philo OR title:"lexham discourse" OR title:"lexham greek-english interlinear septuagint" OR author:Heiser) AND lang:Greek

    Greek Texts 1-2nd c. CE

    (author:Lucian OR author:Plutarch OR author:Aretaeus OR author:Apollodorus OR author:Epictetus OR author:Arrian OR author:Appian OR author:Pausanias OR author:Aristides OR author:Galen) AND lang:Greek

    Greek Texts 3-5th c. CE

    (author:Athenaeus OR author:Oppian OR author:Diogenes OR author:Tryphiodorus OR author:Pseudo-Plutarch OR author:Smyrnaeus OR author:Nonnus) AND lang:Greek

    On all of these, if you take out the "AND lang:Greek" you'll get the English translations in your collections as well.

     

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,994

    Thanks Alabama. Perseus is the only one that has been released to me so far. I think the hurricanes scared the rest away. [;)]

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  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,994

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  • Timothy Ha
    Timothy Ha Member Posts: 431 ✭✭

    Thanks, Mike.

    P.S.: and I am bookmarking this topic for "My Forums" this way :)

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  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭

    I just realized I have the collection rules in Logos even though everything I wrote in preparation for the release is currently inaccessible. I made rules for a couple of them (the others, I dragged and dropped), including what you're most interested in (the time of the NT):

    Thank you Mike so much. [Y]

    Bohuslav

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭

    All Greek texts ...

    Thanks for doing these, Mike.

    In the past, I've had trouble with the number of characters I can use in creating a rule for a collection, so I've tried shortening your All Greek Texts like this:

    (author:(Lucian,Plutarch,Aretaeus,Apollodorus,Epictetus,Arrian,Appian,Pausanias,Aristides,Galen,Homer,Hesiod,Aeschylus,Pindar,Bacchylides,Colluthus,Herodotus,Sophocles,Andocides,Aristophanes,Lysias,Hippocrates,Xenophon,Plato,Lycurgus,Hyperides,Aristotle,Demosthenes,Demades,Dinarchus,Theophrastus,Euclid,Aratus,Callimachus,Lycophron,Theocritus,Polybius,Diodorus,dionysius,Strabo,Aretaeus) OR title:(Josephus,Philo,Heiser,"the apostolic fathers: Greek texts","lexham discourse","lexham greek-english interlinear septuagint")) AND lang:Greek

    I'm not sure how you de-duplicated, but perhaps this might be an alternative:

    lang:Greek ANDNOT type:(Bible,Lexicon,"Clause Visualization")

    Your dividing the texts into centuries was handy too. Thanks.

  • Patrick Rietveld
    Patrick Rietveld Member Posts: 248

    That is nice, Mike!

    For all the Greek texts, I have publisher:perseus AND (lang:greek).

  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    Really awesome Mike. Great job and thanks for sharing.

  • Thanks [8-|]

    Wiki => http://wiki.logos.com/Example_Collections now has 22 examples that include or exclude Perseus (see Title or Collection Size notes), including "Greek Texts: Search Set", "Greek Texts: 1st-2nd Century CE", "Greek Texts: 3rd-5th Century CE", "Texts: 1st-2nd Century CE", and "Texts: 3rd-5th Century CE" (based on Mike Audbrey's collections posted earlier).

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  • Mike  Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member Posts: 447 ✭✭

    Here's a full chronology of authors. Take the dates with a grain of salt, but if you're making collections by era (classical, hellenistic, roman, byzantine, etc.), then this will work just fine for you. The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes cannot the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams, mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.



    Latin

    Greek

    254-184 BCE T. Maccius Plautus

    ~8th c. BCE Homer

    100-44 BCE C. Julius Caesar

    ~7-6thc. BCE? Homeric Hymns

    104-43 BCE Cicero

    ~750-650 BCE Hesiod

    99-55 BCE Lucretius

    525-455 BCE Aeschylus

    86-35 BCE Sallust

    522-443 BCE Pindar

    65-27 BCE Horace

    ~5thc. BCE Bacchylides

    70-19 BCE Virgil

    ~5thc. BCE Colluthus

    55-19 BCE Tibullus

    484-425 BCE Herodotus

    59-17 BCE Livy

    497-406 BCE Sophocles

    80-15 BCE Vitruvius

    460-395 BCE Thucydides  Only
    in the English!

    50-15 BCE Propertius

    440-390 BCE Andocides

    43 BCE – 17 CE Ovidius

    446-386 BCE Aristophanes

    54 BCE – 39 CE Seneca the Elder

    445-380 BCE Lysias

    15 BCE – 50 CE Phaedrus

    460-370  BCE Hippocrates

    4 BCE – 65 CE Seneca the
    Younger

    430-354 BCE Xenophon

    1st
    c. BCE – 1st c. CE Sulpicia

    424-348 BCE Plato

    4-70
    CE Columella

    396-323 BCE Lycurgus of Athens

    1st
    c. CE Gaius Valerius Flaccus

    390-322 BCE Hyperides

    1st c. CE Quintus Curtius Rufus

    384-322 BCE Aristotle

    34-62 CE Persius

    384-322 BCE Demosthenes

    39-65 CE Lucan

    380-318 BCE Demades

    27-66 CE Petronius

    389-314 BCE Aeschines

    23-79 CE Pliny the Elder

    361-291BCE Dinarchus

    45-96 CE P. Papinius Statius

    371-287 BCE Theophrastus

    35-100 CE Quintilian

    ~300 BCE Euclid

    61-112 CE Pliny the Younger

    315-240 BCE Aratus Soloensis

    56-117 CE Cornelius Tacitus

    310-240 BCE Callimachus

    69-130 CE G. Suetonius Tranquillus

    3rd c. BCE Lycophron

    ~2nd c. CE Lucius Annaeus Florus

    3rd c. BCE Theocritus

    1-2nd c. CE Juvenal

    200-118 BCE Polybius

    125-180 CE Apuleius

    1st c. BCE Diodorus Siculus

    125-180 CE Aulus Gellius

    60-7 BCE Dionysius of Halicarnassus

    160-220 CE Tertullian

    64 BCE – 24 CE Strabo

    ~2-3 c. CE Marcus Minucius Felix

    1st c. CE Aretaeus

    ~4th c. CE Scriptores Historiae
    Augustae

    ~1-2 c. CE
    Pseudo-Apollodorus

    4th c. CE Maurus Servius Honoratus

    46-120 CE Plutarch

    325-391 CE Ammianus Marcellinus

    55-135 CE Epictetus

    348-413 CE Prudentius

    86-160 CE Arrian

    347-420 CE Saint
    Jerome

    95-165 CE Appian

    354-430 CE Saint Augustine

    2nd c. CE Pausanias

    672-735 CE The Venerable Bede

    117-181 CE Aelius Aristides

     

    125-180 CE Lucian

     

    129-199 CE Galen

     

    ~2-3 c. CE Athenaeus

     

    ~2-3 c. CE? Oppian

     

    3rd c. CE Diogenes Laertius

     

    ~3-4th c.
    CE Tryphiodorus

     

    ~3-4th c.
    CE Pseudo-Plutarch

     

    ~4th c. CE
    Quintus Smyrnaeus

     

    ~4-5th c.
    CE Nonnus of Panopolis



  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,805

    Mike,

    I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

    Thanks for posting this for us.

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  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151

    Mike,

    I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

    Thanks for posting this for us.

    Thank you so much for creating this .docx file it will be very helpful. I already used it to create a personal book...in anticipation of getting the Perseus Classics Collection soon. I was able to download the Arabic Collection Friday, so hoping to receive more of them on Monday.

    Blessings in Christ,

    Philana Crouch

  • Mike  Aubrey
    Mike Aubrey Member Posts: 447 ✭✭

    Here's a full chronology of authors. Take the dates with a grain of salt, but if you're making collections by era (classical, hellenistic, roman, byzantine, etc.), then this will work just fine for you. The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes cannot the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams, mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.

    Some words got lost in there.

    The only things missing are the papyri (and the individual volumes
    cannot be dated because they contain a range of texts from across the spectrum of years from the post-Alexander the Great Greek Kingdoms--roughly 350 BC--through the Early Medieval Period) and the Greek Anthology, which is a collection poems (epigrams,
    mostly) from the Koine and Byzantine periods.

    Don't know how that happened.

    Anyway, the .docx file looks good--I probably just should have uploaded mine to begin with!

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭


    Mike,

    I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

    Thanks for posting this for us.


    Here's another though it's incomplete and I'm still working on it.  I'll post it when complete.

    4705.Perseus Greek & Latin Authors.docx

    george
    gfsomsel

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  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭


    Mike,

    I hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to compile this as a .docx file for conversion into a PB. I posted that file on the Files Forum: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/39257/293317.aspx#293317

    Thanks for posting this for us.

     

    Here's another though it's incomplete and I'm still working on it.  I'll post it when complete.

    4705.Perseus Greek & Latin Authors.docx


    Thanks to both Mark and George for sharing!                          *smile*

                                                                                                                                       Much appreciated!

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