SYNTAX SEARCH: HEBREW VERB + PREPOSITION

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Jason Brueckner | Forum Activity | Posted: Tue, Oct 4 2011 5:46 PM

I am specifically looking for other occurrences of כרת + lamed (ל) preposition (not as an infinitive preposition ON the verb itself, but as in Job 31:1 ... "I made/cut for my eyes a covenant"). I don't care what noun the lamed (ל) preposition is attached to, just looking for the verb with the preposition as its direct object.

This is a collocation search.

Any insight as to how to search for something like this?

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 9:00 PM

Jason B.:
Any insight as to how to search for something like this?

Apologies: not know if preposition is part of direct object for verb in search below and also not know if direct object can be before verb in Hebrew.

Morph search can find other occurrences of כרת + lamed (ל) preposition with similar word order as Job 31:1

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Jason Brueckner | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 9:11 PM

You know what -- that is a GREAT start.

It has some kinks that needs worked out, but that's a start.

How/Where do you learn all of the "BEFORE" ... "AFTER" words 1-3 ... all that stuff?

 

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Oct 4 2011 9:59 PM

Jason B.:
How/Where do you learn all of the "BEFORE" ... "AFTER" words 1-3 ... all that stuff?

Various forum discussions, including => Searching for multiple Hebrew Words

Wiki Getting Started with Logos => Search links to tutorial videos and wiki pages, including => Detailed Search Help that has Proximity Operators

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Dick Roberts | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 5 2011 10:39 AM

The direct object can occur before verb in Hebrew - as it does in Job 31.1 - the preposition following the verb in this case typically introduces the indirect object, or the one with whom the covenant is made. A number of other prepositions as well as the lamed can indicate the same thing.  If the syntax search in L4Mac were functional, this would be an easy search

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Oct 5 2011 11:48 PM

*** Roberts:
 If the syntax search in L4Mac were functional, this would be an easy search

Living and learning: created a Syntax Search using Logos 4 Windows, then attempted to create same Syntax Search using Logos 4.3 SR-5 on Mac. took many attempts to enter lexeme text.  Copy and Paste lemma from The Hebrew Bible was challenging; eventually pop-up appeared on Mac like Windows with list of homonyms, then could click desired one.

Apologies: not know if Syntax Search is correct, do know can find verse Job 31:1

For grins, also used Morph Search.

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2011 12:10 AM

By way of comparison, Syntax Search using Logos 4.3 SR-5 on Windows shows search settings in diagram:

Also, search results are right justified (for right to left display).

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Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Oct 6 2011 2:31 AM

Living and learning: appears Job 31:1 has a beneficiary clause with lamed (ל) preposition that is used in same clause with verb כרת

Note: 17 Finite Verbs plus 3 Infinitive Constructs = 20 results.

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Sharjeel Shafqat | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 8:18 PM

Greetings in the name of Jesus. 

Brother can i know how to check the percentage or total occurrence of present or aorist or all the tense in whole NT or a compare their occurrence in NT in logos?

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Graham Criddle | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat, Jan 16 2016 11:49 PM

Hi Sharjeel - and welcome to the forums

This is an old thread on a forum discussing Logos 4 which is no longer supported.

Please start a new thread in the Logos 6 forum (assuming that is the software you are running) and explain what you are hoping to achieve.

That way we will be able to assist you better.

Graham 

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