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Denise | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 10:58 AM

This 'Revelations' resource bidding is interesting to watch.

I don't have a dog in that hunt.

But it looks a lot like a big expensive dog is slowing down the younger faster dogs.

Don't think the hunt's going to go.


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Friedrich | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 11:50 AM

Denise Barnhart:
But it looks a lot like a big expensive dog is slowing down the younger faster dogs

yeah, what's up with that?  the 160 price has gotten a big boost lately.  I really thought the $50 would catch on.  of course, it would take a lot more $50 dollar bids to make up the difference.  I'm not getting the CP if it goes for 160.  or even 120. or 80.  But I'd consider $50.  I just don't know that much about several of the authors/books in the collection, even with their write ups--some of which were helpful.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 11:53 AM

**UPDATE 4**

1.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~70% (^1%); Probably less popular than other collections, yet correctly priced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with hope of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

2.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~59% (^1%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $45 with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 44]

3.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~57% (^0%); Looks as if bids are split between $30-50; $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

3.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~57% (^0%); May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 11]

5.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~56% (^1%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 25]

6.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~38% (^0%); Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 61]

7.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~37% (^0%); Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 7]

8.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Jeremiah (22 vols.) - 5,858 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~35% (^0%); Current peak looks accurate; possibility of turning down to $30 before going to Pre-pub. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

9.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Corinthians (29 vols.) - 7,722 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~33% (^0%); Price looks good. Continue @ $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

10.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Leviticus (21 vols.) - 4,849 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~32% (^3%);  Recommend to raise $30 bids to $35 with hope of falling back to $30 after crossing production line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

10.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~32% (^4%); Price seems right.  Lack of popularity currently could be the problem.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

12.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ephesians (23 vols.) - 8,210 pgs; Current peak $40! @ ~25% (^0%); Price is correct. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 2]

13.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Matthew (25 vols.) - 9,277 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~22% (^4%); Suggest requesting the option for lower bid choices - $40 for post production line drift. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 2]

14.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ezekiel (15 vols.) - 4,740 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~20% (New listing as of 11/21/11); Recommend to raise $25 bids to $30 with hope of driving down to $25 after crossing production line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

15.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on the Song of Songs (24 vols.) - 6,932 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~10% (New listing as of 11/22/11); Price is correct for now with chance of falling to $30 after crossing production line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

**Successful Collections***

1.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Peak $40; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)
Successful @ $40 in CP; SHIPPED ~11/14/11 @ $149.95! Now $199.95

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 12:12 PM

Paul Newsome:

**UPDATE 4**

In on all of them... and praying they don't all ship the same day! Surprise

Grace & Peace,
Bill


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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 2:37 PM

Paul,

 

Where do you get the %'s from?  All I see is the chart that gives me an approximation of the peercentage.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon, Nov 28 2011 2:40 PM

Michael:

Where do you get the %'s from?  All I see is the chart that gives me an approximation of the peercentage.

 

Michael, the '~' in front of my numbers is shorthand for "your guess is as good as mine" Big Smile.  I hope I'm relatively close though

 

It has been interesting to look at the correlation between Facebook 'Likes', the times Logos has mentioned the commentary collections, and the movement of each collection's peak pricepoints.

My latest update hopes to incorporate how the collections are progressing in relation to each other while past updates looked to better visualize Facebook 'Likes' compared to pricepoint/% progress

[upteenth edit]

- BTW I plan to continue to update the list every ten days as new offerings seem to come out weekly.  If anyone has a creative addition to the stats or something they think would be interesting please suggest away!

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Tue, Nov 29 2011 7:40 AM

Thanks Paul! I appreciate all of the work you do keeping the list up to date.  As a relative new comer to studying the Bible looking to increase my knowledge and understanding of the scriptures, I'm in on all of the classic commentaries.  Your list helps me to keep track of where they are all are at in the CP process.

Is there a correlation between FB "likes" and movement?  If there is, maybe we could organize a FB "like" day.

 

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 4:31 AM

**UPDATE 5**

1.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Galatians (24 vols.) - 4,014 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~72% (^2%); Correctly if not slightly overpriced for now.  Suggest $40 bids with expectation of dropping to $30 after crossing the line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 2]

2.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~59% (^0%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $50 due to recent stall with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 44]

3.) ↑ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Job (18 vols.) - 6,330 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~57% (^0%); May stall before reaching the top.  Encouraged to up bid to $40 with a possible drop to $35 or $30 after crossing the line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 12]

4.) ↓ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Daniel (21 vols.) - 6,167 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~56% (^0%); $30 bids and new bidders suggested to bid $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

4.) ↑ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Revelation (27 vols.) - 12,448 pgs; Current peak $160! @ ~56% (^0%); Good test showing how CP bidding affects progress.  High bidding most likely causing new bidders to shy away (as suggested by others here, here, here, & here).  Recommend following new peak at $50 with hope of reaching $40 possible. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 26]

6.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Psalms (35 vols.) - 15,773 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~38% (^0%); Definitely trending underpriced.  Recommend a $50 bid. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 62]

7.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Exodus (21 vols.) - 6,309 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~37% (^0%); Encouraged to continue to bid at $40 much like the Genesis collection. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 7]

8.) ↑ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Corinthians (29 vols.) - 7,722 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~36% (^3%); Price looks good. Continue @ $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

8.) ↑ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Luke (24 vols.) - 9,169 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~36% (^4%); Price seems right.  Suggest bidding $40 or $50. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

10.) ↓ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Jeremiah (22 vols.) - 5,858 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~35% (^0%); Current peak looks accurate; possibility of turning down to $30 before going to Pre-pub. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

10.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Leviticus (21 vols.) - 4,849 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~35% (^3%);  Recommend to raise $30 bids to $35 with hope of falling back to $30 after crossing production line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

12.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ephesians (23 vols.) - 8,210 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~28% (^3%); Price is correct. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

13.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Matthew (25 vols.) - 9,277 pgs; Current peak $50 @ ~22% (^0%); Price is correct now with option to go lower. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 4]

13.) ↑ Classic Commentaries and Studies on Ezekiel (15 vols.) - 4,740 pgs; Current peak $25 @ ~22% (^2%); Recommend raising $25 bids to $30 with hope of driving down to $25 after crossing production line. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

15.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on the Song of Songs (24 vols.) - 6,932 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~19% (^9%); Price is correct for now with chance of falling to $30 after crossing production line. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 1]

16.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Colossians, Thessalonians, and Philemon (25 vols.) - 7,199 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~17% (New listing as of 12/02/11); Price is correct for now at $30. May need to bump to $40 to gain momentum ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

17.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on the Acts of the Apostles (30 vols.) - 9,610 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~1% (New listing as of 12/07/11); Recommend raising $30 bid to $40 and new bids of $40. ($10 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

18.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Mark (24 vols.) - 5,895 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~0.5% (New listing as of 12/08/11); Price is correct for now at $30 with hope of dropping to $25. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

**Successful Collections***

1.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Genesis (22 vols.) - 8,132 pgs; Peak $40; I might guess we will be seeing this one out of CP by the end of October.  New bidders keep bidding at the peak ($40); small possibility of reaching $30. ($10 increments)
Successful @ $40 in CP; SHIPPED ~11/14/11 @ $149.95! Now $199.95

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Michael | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 5:26 AM

Thanks Paul!

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NB.Mick | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 5:49 AM

Paul Newsome:
2.) Classic Commentaries and Studies on Romans (32 vols.) - 14,377 pgs; Current peak $40 @ ~59% (^0%); Guessing high popularity on this collection; Suggest increasing bids to/placing new bids at $50 due to recent stall with expectation of falling to $40 due to popularity. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 44]

Since the demand curve falls sharply after the going price of 40, I think increasing existing bids won't change much - unless nearly everybody who is in with 40 or less does it. While $40 is at 60%, $45 is at 20% or so...

I think, new bidders need to be attracted. Maybe it would be more helpful to single out this resource in its own thread (or even a blog post) -

One argument could be the $40 - that's over fourteen-thousand pages at the price of one current some-hundred pages commentary!

Maybe it would help to compile some info on the authors and their theological positions (conservative/liberal, calvinist/lutheran/wesleyan), and how these works were regarded by contemporaries - Spurgeon's list comes to mind - and by subsequent scholarship. 

Just some ideas...

 

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 8:12 AM

Paul Newsome:

Thanks for this update...

BillS:

In on all of them... and praying they don't all ship the same day! Surprise

Surprise

Grace & Peace,
Bill


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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 9:51 AM

Paul Newsome:
18.) *NEW* Classic Commentaries and Studies on Mark (24 vols.) - 5,895 pgs; Current peak $30 @ ~0.5% (New listing as of 12/08/11); Price is correct for now at $30 with hope of dropping to $25. ($5 increments)
[FB 'Likes' = 0]

Just added the Mark collection because... Logos just added it!

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 2:22 PM

New 

Classic Commentaries and Studies on Numbers and Deuteronomy (20 vols.)

Right now its $30 lets move to $25

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 2:24 PM

lol, Slava, I think they're on to my little game!

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Wild Eagle | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu, Dec 8 2011 4:35 PM

Paul Newsome:

lol, Slava, I think they're on to my little game!

Thanks Paul for this "Little Game" it works, the price already dropped to $25

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BillS | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri, Dec 9 2011 8:08 AM

Slava Novik:

 

OK, I'm in... don't know how I missed this one!

Grace & Peace,
Bill


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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 9:19 AM

Michael:
Looks like Corinthians and Luke are shooting up there too!

interesting!

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Dean J | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 10:42 AM

Just a thought, but perhaps when many of these sets have cleared, the less popular ones or the stalled ones (and I'm thinking Revelation) might re-gain some interest.

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Paul N | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed, Dec 14 2011 10:46 AM

In Update 5 we did see the $160 peak stop for the first time.  Maybe it just took a couple weeks to show it.  I've thought about tracking the second peak in the Revelations collection but I assume it will prevail eventually.

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