Tip: How to hide up to 10 resources at once

I've always thought it impossible to hide multiple resources, but I've recently discovered a workaround which hides up to 10 resources, which whilst far from perfect might help somewhat. Disclaimer: I'm using the beta at the moment, so it's possible this tip only works on the beta. It's worth trying on the release version though.

Here are the steps:

Open your library in one panel, and Program Settings in another panel.
Expand the Hidden Resource section of Program Settings.
Select the resources you want to hide, up to 10. To select multiple resources click on the first, then SHIFT+click on the last. Alternatively, click on the first then CTRL+click on each of the others.
In the library panel click "Open all in a floating window"
When the floating window appears, SHIFT+drag one tab into the hidden resources box. Holding the SHIFT key before you click on a tab causes all the tabs to be selected.
Close the floating window.

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Graham Criddle

Hi Mark

Thanks for this - very helpful

Graham

Praiser

Great to see this...I tried this when Perseus first came out and it didn't work for me at that time (Beta user), or I was trying to move too many resources at once. So this might be a new addition since so many folks were asking for it. I'm glad we are able to do it this way now.[Y]

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/306596#Comment_306596

Very clever Mark!

It worked in my 4.3Sr3.

Danny Baskin

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/306605#Comment_306605

Thanks, Mark! So helpful. Though it was great to get all the free Perseus materials, they tend to "clutter" my library. Now hiding them wil take about 1/10 the time!

Buck McDaniel

I tried this method, but it appeared to be inconsistent. Now I know why.
When I tested it, I only tested a few. Then I deleted all those between files I wanted to keep, but could not figure out why it sometimes worked and sometimes did not.

Now that I am done, I get to learn the difference.

I am glad to know this for the future.

Thank you

Buck

Nick Mertes

I tried your suggestion but couldn't make it work. In step 3, when I click on any book, it opens in a new window. When I right click, one of the choices is open in a floating window. There is no choice to "Open all in a floating window". Do you have any further suggestions?

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/309199#Comment_309199

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/309199#Comment_309199

I tried your suggestion but couldn't make it work. In step 3, when I click on any book, it opens in a new window. When I right click, one of the choices is open in a floating window. There is no choice to "Open all in a floating window". Do you have any further suggestions?

Do not click on the Title to select resources.

The option is "Open in a floating window".

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/309199#Comment_309199

In step 3, when I click on any book, it opens in a new window.

As Dave said, when you click, CTRL+click or SHIFT+click, do it anywhere on the row, apart from on the title or cover. That way, you can select the row without opening the resource.

Nick Mertes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/309214#Comment_309214

Thanks to each of you who replied. Sometimes it takes an old curmudgeon (as my secretary refers to me) like me to RTIC (Read the Instructions Completely).

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/310498#Comment_310498

Thanks, Mark. This is brilliant! I have gotten behind on tagging new resources and I trace it to the arrival of Perseus in my library. It just overwhelmed me so much I got stuck and haven't done any tagging at all since then.

I see it's possible to drag even more than 10 tabs at a time to the Hidden Resources folder if there's an easy way to get them all open in a floating window at once. I wonder why there's that artificial limit of opening only 10 at a time?

BTW, I figured out a faster way to count to 10 in making my selection in the library. First resize the library tile so that exactly 10 titles appear in it (put some other tile above it). Then you can just page down a page at a time and select from top to bottom of the titles that are showing.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311632#Comment_311632

I wonder why there's that artificial limit of opening only 10 at a time?

Presumably so people don't go mad and try and open hundreds of tabs. It would be the easiest code change in the world to alter though. Perhaps I'll ask in the beta forum.

Nick Mertes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311675#Comment_311675

I attempted to tag more than 10 titles. It would let me tag them but when I right clicked & clicked on open in a floating window, it would never open the floating window. It just took forever to hide most of the Perseus Collection. What I would really like to see is the ability to create folders as in Windows.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311729#Comment_311729

If you right click on one title in the Library and open it in a floating window, then Alt-Tab (in Windows) back to the Library and click successively on other titles one by one, it will open each of them into that same floating window group, including way more than 10 titles. Then you can Shift click on one of them to drag them all into Hidden Resources at once. It's a bit cumbersome, but it does reduce the amount of precision dragging you need to do.

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311729#Comment_311729

I suppose I will eventually have to do this with Perseus (wouldn't have been great to just DL the titles you wanted! Or have the whole Perseus collection DL as hidden files!), so I'm thankful to have this procedure available. Thanks.

I suspect I will spend more time hiding Perseus than I ever will actually using it. [8-)]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311736#Comment_311736

Now that I've got so many resources in my Hidden Resources folder, I wish that it were more of a full-featured thing like the Library, so I could filter it and browse for specific titles or authors, or things I'd tagged before I hid them, so that I can unhide things selectively more easily. There have been Targums I've wanted to look at after someone referred to them, for example, even though I'd hidden them all at first. And who knows...someday I might be studying the Odyssey and want to see a commentary on the Greek text. (Not likely, though.)

David Paul

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311737#Comment_311737

Now that I've got so many resources in my Hidden Resources folder, I wish that it were more of a full-featured thing like the Library, so I could filter it and browse for specific titles or authors, or things I'd tagged before I hid them, so that I can unhide things selectively more easily. There have been Targums I've wanted to look at after someone referred to them, for example, even though I'd hidden them all at first. And who knows...someday I might be studying the Odyssey and want to see a commentary on the Greek text. (Not likely, though.)

Agreed!!! At this point, putting something in the Hidden file is basically like opening your basement door and tossing it down the darkened stairs...knowing that it's so dank and overwhelming down there that you just as well could have tossed it in the trash, 'cause the chances of ever building up the gumption to go down with the flashlight and try to dig up the one thing you want in that unimaginable pile is slim...or none.

James H. Schafer

Thanks Mark for this splendid idea.

My problem is, that even after I drag the resources into the Hidden box, restart Logos, they continue to show up in My Library.

I thought hiding the resource meant it would no longer show in the Library. Am I right, or wrong.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/313738#Comment_313738

Thanks Mark for this splendid idea.

My problem is, that even after I drag the resources into the Hidden box, restart Logos, they continue to show up in My Library.

I thought hiding the resource meant it would no longer show in the Library. Am I right, or wrong.

I had this problem with a few of the ones from the enormous Perseus collection that I hid, but I restarted Logos again, and they were gone. I think I only had to rehide 10 or 20 of them which were missed on my first pass through.

James H. Schafer

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/313741#Comment_313741

Finally, I got success. However, simply closing Logos and re-opening Logos did nothing to the resources hidden.

I had to re-boot the computer before they were removed from my library. Latin and Spanish resources now moved. Going to work on Perseus-Greek now and that's 404 resources so it will take a while.

Sure wish it worked just closing and re-opening Logos.

Jonathan Burke

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/314025#Comment_314025

Could I confirm that hidden resources:

1. Are actually removed from your hard drive, thus reducing the size of your Logos library (and index, when you re-index).

2. Are not re-downloaded the next time you sync.

Kevin Becker

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/320004#Comment_320004

Could I confirm that hidden resources:

1. Are actually removed from your hard drive, thus reducing the size of your Logos library (and index, when you re-index).

2. Are not re-downloaded the next time you sync.

Yes on both counts.

I have had a sync hiccup once where my hidden resources were downloaded and then not applied to my library. It was on a new install but the normal behavior of hiding is that the books are removed from your hard drive and indexes and aren't re-downloaded until you unhide them.

Jonathan Burke

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/320006#Comment_320006

Excellent, thank you Kevin. I really want to clean up my library by removing a lot of the light reading, devotional literature, and commentaries I never use.

toughski

I've always thought it impossible to hide multiple resources, but I've recently discovered a workaround which hides up to 10 resources, which whilst far from perfect might help somewhat.

Great idea, thank you, Mark.

But what about if I want to uhhide half of Perseus? Then what? I guess Logos thinks that we can only read one book at a time [;)]

Michael Quillen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/311733#Comment_311733

If you right click on one title in the Library and open it in a floating window, then Alt-Tab (in Windows) back to the Library and click successively on other titles one by one, it will open each of them into that same floating window group, including way more than 10 titles. Then you can Shift click on one of them to drag them all into Hidden Resources at once. It's a bit cumbersome, but it does reduce the amount of precision dragging you need to do.

I found a tweak to Rosie's idea that I hope works for everyone:

1. Open Library and search for what you want to hide (e.g. "Perseus Greek" or "Perseus Latin")

2. Right click on one title and select "open in floating window"

3. Move the floating window to the right and the library pane to the left, so you can see the open arrow/triangle next to book titles

4. Click on the open arrow/triangle in the library of the next resources

5. Repeat that down the library pane until you get to the last one and then get ready for the surprise: it brings the next title up!

6. Leave your mouse there and just keep clicking until it won't let you click no more - there is a limit of 37 (?)

7. Shift click drag from the floating pane to program settings hidden resources.

Repeat about 35 times and Perseus Greek will be hidden.

Cheers!

JT (alabama24)

Thanks again, Mark, for this great tip. I just cleaned up over 100 resources. Your method was a lifesaver. [:)]

Alan Cleveland

Thank you so much for this simple tip Mark!

Donald Patrick Harris

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the tip. I tried it and it works. Still tedious but it works and I have now hidden all the Perseus collection works to which I don't care to have regular access.

I also discovered, quite accidentally, that you need only highlight the resources in the library (no more than 10, contiguous or non-contiguous) and drag them to the hidden resources section of Program Settings.

Again, thank you for your help.

grace and peace,

Don

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/354855#Comment_354855

I also discovered, quite accidentally, that you need only highlight the resources in the library (no more than 10, contiguous or non-contiguous) and drag them to the hidden resources section of Program Settings.

This doesn't work for me - only one resource is dragged and hidden. Are you sure it works for you? If so, what version of Logos are you using? Windows or Mac?

Donald Patrick Harris

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357129#Comment_357129

Yes, it certainly does work for me. For weeks I hid sources one at a time. Then I became frustrated and just let it be until I read Mark's tip. Then I tried to hide multiple resources using--I even tried hiding more than ten but that didn't work. But, yes, I did hide ten resources at a time. Now all the resources I wanted to hide are hidden.

My version is Logos Bible Software 4.5a SR-1 (4.51.0.2057) and I am a Mac user.

grace and peace

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357214#Comment_357214

Thanks Mark - this enabled me to clear out all the Latin resources very quickly on a wet Easter Monday. Not that I have got anything against Latin resources, I just don't need them at the moment!

PetrosD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357230#Comment_357230

You'd think Logos would have a simple list you can (un)check as it suits you. I tried this convoluted way of removing excessive resources and it just doesn't work. Either the instructions are flawed or I am. Either way, it doesn't work.

Anyone know how I get my money back from Logos?

PetrosD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357851#Comment_357851

I found the best way to get rid of the Perseus Collections -- remove Logos. All fixed

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357852#Comment_357852

I found the best way to get rid of the Perseus Collections -- remove Logos. All fixed

In case you missed it there, see my comment on your other post: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/48253/357865.aspx#357865

GregW

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/357851#Comment_357851

I tried this convoluted way of removing excessive resources and it just doesn't work. Either the instructions are flawed or I am. Either way, it doesn't work.

I got caught out at first because I tried clicking the name of the book in the Library list. If you right-click on the Library icon and select "open in new tab" and click on the "Author" column instead of the title the instructions work fine. Mark actually produces these tips without any reimbursement apart from his own satisfaction and our gratitude, and I'm very grateful to him for this particular technique.

Thor Ryan

Very helpful, works great, thanks!

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/385055#Comment_385055

By the way, this trick is soon to be no longer necessary. The beta version of Logos 4.6 has a new feature where you can select multiple books at once and drag them all to Hidden Resources together. For further details, see http://community.logos.com/forums/t/52637.aspx and http://wiki.logos.com/Logos_4.6_Beta_2.

toughski

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387038#Comment_387038

Rosie, can you confirm that it works the "other way" too - can you select multiple resources in the Hidden list and drag them back to the Library?

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387075#Comment_387075

Rosie, can you confirm that it works the "other way" too - can you select multiple resources in the Hidden list and drag them back to the Library?

I haven't upgraded to it yet, but I could have sworn I saw someone else mention that it does not work the other way. However I can't find that post now.

EDIT: Ah, here it is: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/52692.aspx

toughski

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387078#Comment_387078

We are half-way to a working system. I am glad for that.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387075#Comment_387075

Rosie, can you confirm that it works the "other way" too - can you select multiple resources in the Hidden list and drag them back to the Library?

Please help me understand when and why you would want to unhide multiple resources at once.

Bradley Grainger (Logos)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387038#Comment_387038

The beta version of Logos 4.6 has a new feature where you can select multiple books at once and drag them all to Hidden Resources together.

In Logos 4.6, you can select multiple resources in the Library, hold down Ctrl (or Option) and right-click them, then choose "Hide these resources" from the context menu. There is no multiple drag-and-drop.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387154#Comment_387154

Please help me understand when and why you would want to unhide multiple resources at once.

I'm not Rosie, but I'll give you a reason: you change your mind. Suppose I decide to hide a bunch of the Perseus collection and later find a use for it. Or all those fragments of the ancient Greek text or the Targums. Suppose I've hidden them and later decide I'd like to research them a bit (and even get rid of them again)?

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387158#Comment_387158

Please help me understand when and why you would want to unhide multiple resources at once.

I'm not Rosie, but I'll give you a reason: you change your mind. Suppose I decide to hide a bunch of the Perseus collection and later find a use for it. Or all those fragments of the ancient Greek text or the Targums. Suppose I've hidden them and later decide I'd like to research them a bit (and even get rid of them again)?

[Y]

I would want to be able to unhide all volumes of set of resources in a series or collection that I've hidden. For example, I've hidden some commentary sets that I don't find useful, but if my needs changed (perhaps someone was asking me about them), then I'd like to be able to grab them back with one click instead of, say, 20 or 30.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387154#Comment_387154

Please help me understand when and why you would want to unhide multiple resources at once.

Because you've learnt (are learning) a new language (Latin, Aramaic...).
Because you've changed denomination and now want to read books you earlier thought heretical.
Because you've learnt to appreciate an author you didn't use to care about.
Because you find yourself needing to research a subject you thought you'd never ever be interested in.
Because your spouse got a job in the company's branch in the US, and all those hidden 'Christianity in America' books suddenly became relevant.
Because you've bought a new computer with a five times larger HD and no longer have to hide everything you can possibly do without.
Because you've got hundreds of books you'll probably never use cluttering up your library and searches, but don't dare to hide them until you know you can easily get them back.
Because you've got huge series like the CAL Targums, Qumran fragments, papyri, ostraka... that you almost never use but can't do without, and it would be wonderful to be able to have them hidden most of the time, yet easily retrievable when needed.
...

Of course, being able to select multiple hidden resources won't help much unless you also make it possible to find the resources one wants to unhide...

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387177#Comment_387177

Of course, being able to select multiple hidden resources won't help much unless you also make it possible to find the resources one wants to unhide...

So true!

David Carter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387177#Comment_387177

Please help me understand when and why you would want to unhide multiple resources at once.

Because you've learnt (are learning) a new language (Latin, Aramaic...).

Because you've changed denomination and now want to read books you earlier thought heretical.

Because you've learnt to appreciate an author you didn't use to care about.

Because you find yourself needing to research a subject you thought you'd never ever be interested in.

Because your spouse got a job in the company's branch in the US, and all those hidden 'Christianity in America' books suddenly became relevant.

Because you've bought a new computer with a five times larger HD and no longer have to hide everything you can possibly do without.

Because you've got hundreds of books you'll probably never use cluttering up your library and searches, but don't dare to hide them until you know you can easily get them back.

Because you've got huge series like the CAL Targums, Qumran fragments, papyri, ostraka... that you almost never use but can't do without, and it would be wonderful to be able to have them hidden most of the time, yet easily retrievable when needed.

...

I would think that is enough help and Bradley now understands [:D]

Of course, being able to select multiple hidden resources won't help
much unless you also make it possible to find the resources one wants to
unhide...

Indeed

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387177#Comment_387177

Of course, being able to select multiple hidden resources won't help much unless you also make it possible to find the resources one wants to unhide...

[Y] I've been asking for a search/filter field for the hidden resources since 4.0 came out.

Mark Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387196#Comment_387196

I've been asking for a search/filter field for the hidden resources since 4.0 came out.

While the Beta capability of hiding multiple resources does take care of that issue it doesn't really address a core issue: control of resources from WITHIN Library. It is INSIDE of Library that we need to be able to control what resources we see/use and what ones we don't. The extra 'Hidden Resources' pane inside Settings isn't what is needed. Locate all this within Library. Hide/See should be applied like tags and stars are.

Todd Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/387197#Comment_387197

I've been asking for a search/filter field for the hidden resources since 4.0 came out.

While the Beta capability of hiding multiple resources does take care of that issue it doesn't really address a core issue: control of resources from WITHIN Library. It is INSIDE of Library that we need to be able to control what resources we see/use and what ones we don't. The extra 'Hidden Resources' pane inside Settings isn't what is needed. Locate all this within Library. Hide/See should be applied like tags and stars are.

I can see that, and I agree. My suggestion to add a filter to the hidden resources list is because it works with their current design assumptions:

Everything that Logos has done with hidden resources is to make it as hard as possible to hide a resource by accident: Originally it was moving a single resource at a time, by drag-and-drop only, to a nearly hidden section of the Program Settings window that required expansion before it could be used. Now the new features require that the Ctrl key be held down to see the menu functions, and there's no way to know that without being told.

Logos (Bob) has stated fears about hidden resources causing increased support costs because it would confuse users if the hidden resource function was easy to use--perhaps because users would accidentally hide stuff and not know what happened, or they would purposely hide stuff and forget about it. I assume they are still operating from that assumption.